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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2017-12-21 07:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #4005 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4005 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Rhys Ifans and Richard Armitage in Berlin Station]


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(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Making obvious jokes and running them into the ground within hours is just what the Internet does

and there's no one that I will forgive more quickly for doing so than Gillian Anderson

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 06:39 am (UTC)(link)
Im cool with Gillian Anderson doing it but everyone else on the internet... nah,that gets old fast.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 06:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup. She can do it but everyone else has to stop. I am okay with that rule. :)

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
"She's better than a goddamn disney princess"

Because they're intended for two rather different audiences...?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
They are not, I am the audience for both Disney princesses and X-Files

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
...why do you think this is something OP doesn't know when it's essentially the nature of their complaint?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
OP didn't just say that they're different things

OP also said that Disney Princesses are worse than Agent Scullys

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Torture and lasagna are two different things but I personally no problem deciding that lasagna is way better than torture.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
OP's secret said that Agent Scully > Disney Princesses. Anon's reply (pretty clearly IMO) said that neither of those things is better than the other, they're just intended for different audiences.

Now, obviously, you can agree or disagree with that, the same way that you can agree or disagree that torture is better than lasagna. What's weird and confusing is that you keep approaching it like you don't understand what anon meant with their initial reply, and responding like anon's post didn't make sense, when it was pretty obvious and straightforward.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
/shrug I think it's possible - highly probable even - that OP knows that Disney princesses and X-Files were intended for different audiences, and yet it's not unreasonable for OP to hold the opinion that one is better than the other. To me, it's weird that the anon I responded to thinks that it's not possible to prefer one thing more than another unless they're the same type of thing. That's pretty silly.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
The AYRT is saying it's like comparing apples and oranges.

The OP is blatantly comparing them.

So I don't get this response.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Comparing apples to oranges is just fine when someone is expressing a preference for apples over oranges,because nobody is claiming that they're the same type of fruit. All they're saying is that they think one is better than the other. It's really, really weird that so many (?) people here are acting like it's invalid or impossible to rank different things in order of preference.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
No one is acting like it's invalid or impossible.

Your responses in this thread are baffling.

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
I mean there are countless more horrible things that could happen due to this, like imagine how much more powerful their copyright lawyers are now and how much money they've given fuckin Murdoch and what he'd do with it.

But the internet only wants to talk about superheroes and Disney princess, so.

What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
I like Scully too, but of course people are going to have fun with this. And, honestly, I don't see anything wrong with that.

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
It's FS, no fun allowed.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
I can't speak for OP, but the problem for me is that the jokes got tired in approximately 10 seconds. They're not intrinsically bad jokes but they got run into the ground almost immediately.

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
definitely oversaturation. that, and not everything is a goddamn disney princess. there is definitely a trope to disney princesses and just because someone is female doesn't mean they're part of that trope.

why isn't Mulder the disney princess anyway?

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Ah yes, I figured it had something to do with Disney princesses being too "girly."

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT but you are really, really reaching

that's actually just not what they said at all

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
just because someone is female doesn't mean they're part of that trope

OK, maybe I'm reaching, but I am curious about what trope they're talking about then.

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
No, they're talking about the Disney Princess trope, you're correct there.

But, like. All the sentence that you're quoting says is that not all female characters are part of that trope. Not all female characters fit the trope definition of being a Disney Princess. That doesn't mean that Disney Princesses are too girly. That's where I think you're overreaching.

All they're saying is that the fact that Dana Scully is female does not, in itself, make her a Disney Princess, and that her character doesn't really line up with that particular trope.

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I'm not sure I agree with you.

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(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
New anon here: Of course being "girly" has nothing to do with it! If you look at the existing Disney Princesses, Mulan and Merida aren't girly at all. And, more subjectively, Belle, Tiana, Pocahontas and Moana aren't what I'd consider to be especially girly, either. So that's a pretty weird reach!

Generally, the traits they all have in common are kindness, a love of adventure/freedom, and determination to achieve their dreams. People might object to an association with them for the same reason anyone decides to hate anything marketed towards children: they see it as childish, and their ~mature show for adults only~ is too good for that.

Re: What's wrong with Disney princesses?

(Anonymous) 2017-12-22 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I love GA but the joke would've been ten times better if it'd been a pic of Disney princess Fox Mulder.