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[ SECRET POST #4007 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4007 ⌋

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[Pokémon USUM]

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[Moby]

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[Brooklyn 99, Gina Linetti]

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[Guardians of the Galaxy franchise]

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[Illusion of Gaia]

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[Stranger Things]

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This. It was possibly a little long, but I didn't mind because I loved it all. Most of the hate I've seen is coming from people who hate the idea of Kylo/Rey, which wasn't even in the movie. Too much reading into things and making assumptions and then basing their hate off that.

I hate the idea of Kylo/Rey and I still loved it

possibly in part because I don't think it was nearly as positive about their relationship as the triumphalist shippers made it out to be

Right, I expected way more of that ship but they just had a conversation once or twice and he talked some shit.

Right. And the force bond thing wasn't even romantic. I mean, the few times we've seen that has been between family members: Luke and Vader, Luke and Leia. So there is no reason to think that it means shippy things.

*COUGH* family *COUGH*

Do you subscribe to the Rey Skywalker theory?

Oh, honey.

The film did feel more suggestive of Kylo/Rey to me, and I'm not a shipper either way. Sure, you can say none of it pinged you as romantic, but it was certainly intimate. I don't think you can say they "just had a conversation", that's not an accurate assessment of their dynamic and subplot in the film.

It was definitely intimate but more in an enemy-ship/hate-ship type of way imo, especially by the end of the movie.

it's definitely not a true wuvvy ship, at least at this point, and I don't understand how some shippers apparently got that out of it.

I absolutely agree with you, except in the enemy/hate ship by the end of the movie. After Rey and Kylo fight together, Kylo asks her to join him, she begs him not to go there, and then basically rejects him and just runs off. It didn't feel like there was suddenly added emotional baggage, at least nothing that would've beat out the fact that they just teamed up and destroyed Snoke and the Praetorians (or whatever they've called).

Absolutely not true love, though. At this point, I wouldn't be surprised if it went that way next film, however. But a bait-and-switch romance would definitely be a nod back to the original trilogy, so anything goes, I guess.

But they are enemies. He recommits to the Dark Side. Him asking her to join him is the mirror of Vader asking Luke to join him and rule the galaxy together. And she rejects him the same way Luke does. They're enemies.

Now, probably he's going to cross over to the light side again in the next film, I don't really know. But the enmity is as much a part of the relationship as whatever intimacy shippers see there.

There's a difference between being on opposite sides, and having a hateful relationship. They are enemies in the sense that they are fighting for opposing goals, but I didn't get a sense of emotionally-driven animosity between them at the end.

It's personal and emotional at least to the extent that Rey is personally committed to the light side and Kylo to the dark. Their opposing goals are part of who they are.

It's much closer to Anakin and Padmé's version of that scene than Darth Vader and Luke.

Yeah, I don't care about the ship either way but aside from working with what was give in the movie it's not exactly brimming with romantic overtures.

Nothing was really outside of the(at the moment) one sided admiration/crush Rose has on Finn.

Poe and Leia's interactions felt pretty sexy to me.

Which is fair enough but I wouldn't consider that deliberate on the writers part.

Enjoy it if you do though.

No, I pretty much attribute it to Oscar Isaac, lol

Oh yeah that guy has chemistry with like everyone, it's good.

Since this movie upped Kylo's bad-guy grade from an F to a C+, maybe a B- if we are adjusting for Alan Rickman's death, I can see Kylo/Hux.

Oh sure I can at least see it more this time, and hell I enjoyed their antagonistic banter for what it was.

What? Alan Rickman?

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