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fandomsecrets2008-07-01 05:32 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-07-01 05:32 pm
[ SECRET POST #543 ]
⌈ Secret Post #543 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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128 OP
(Anonymous) 2008-07-01 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)And no, I've never heard of Heath Ledger being heavily based on one particular version, and I've seen most of the Joker's various versions over the years. They did give Ledger The Killing Joke to read, but it's not all based on that version.
Re: 128 OP
I mean the Joker has gone from something more joke then scary, female, Robin with a mind control chip, an albino arms dealer...I could probably go on for a long time.
But they took the essence of what he is and actually made it terrifying, which few jokers before really have been (Awesome, yes, but few actually were scary just by standing there.)
Re: 128 OP
(Anonymous) 2008-07-01 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)Two of those were elseworlds, so not the same Joker, one was the Silver Age, which is awesome but I'm pretty sure the comic industry has moved past it (and we still have Romero for that, anyway), and Return of the Joker was quite consistent with the character in the DCAU.
I agree that TDK Joker looks terrifying, but I wouldn't call it the essence of what he is. They did capture his scariness and psychoticness extremely well, but there's more to him than that. There are, for example, his comedy props, his silly jokes, and the fact that (when well written) he can actually be quite funny, in a dark sort of way. These are a well-established part of the character, and from what they've shown of TDK, they don't seem to be very emphasized. He looks awesome, I agree, but he seems too much of a straight psychotic killer for me to reconcile with most versions of the Joker.
If there's one version I'd call the essence of what he is, I'd say it's the BTAS version. They did a good job of balancing the clown aspect and the psychotic murderer aspect.
Re: 128 OP
I do see the joking bits in him, just in a much more twisted way than the normal joker (He has most reminded me of Arkham Asylum thus far). Where as usually the Joker is funny UNTIL you realize what's going on, you never have to realize with this joker that he is not fucking around...but I don't think that he's completely lost the humor in a really sick way.
If there's one version I'd call the essence of what he is, I'd say it's the BTAS version. Well no arguments there :3 (My biggest disappointed with this movie is my hopes of a Harley are dwindling greatly)
Re: 128 OP
(Anonymous) 2008-07-02 12:06 am (UTC)(link)Indeed. I don't really have a problem with it, I'd just like to get to see a less "alternate" version on the screen one of these days. But again, this is cool, too.
And yes, I agree that this Joker definitely has a sense of humour; it's the "killer stand up comedian" aspect of it that he seems to be missing.
(My biggest disappointed with this movie is my hopes of a Harley are dwindling greatly)
So much word. She may actually have a cameo appearance, from what I've heard, but that can never be enough. :/
Re: 128 OP
I've heard she's suppose to be the little quirk at the end the same way the joker card was in the last one, but pretty much yeah. And I doubt anything in the third will be Joker centered (For obviouse reasons)
Re: 128 OP
Re: 128 OP
(Anonymous) 2008-07-02 12:24 am (UTC)(link)Seriously, thought, thanks for the link.