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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-01 03:28 pm

[ SECRET POST #4016 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4016 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Intelligence, The Romeo Section]


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[American Vandal, Sara Pearson/Mr. Kraz]


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[Winona Ryder]


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[Doctor Who]


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[Bring It On]


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Re: DA

(Anonymous) 2018-01-02 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
My point was that gamers are no more likely to threaten or harm her than anyone else. As a celebrity, I'm sure she has freaks who send her stuff. But there's no reason to believe that gamers in particular are worse, and reason to believe they're largely no different than the rest of the internet ... you know, that insane Internet hate machine you mentioned.

This is disingenuous. The reason that she said she was scared of gamers was connected to the fact that there was a specific Internet hate machine whose whole self-conception and purpose was built around their idea of being gamers. That's who scared her, that's why she said she was scared of gamers. That was a thing that was happening, and it was a very remarkable thing in the context of the Internet that a lot of people noticed as being distinctly toxic, and apparently it frightened her, which doesn't seem unreasonable.

Additionally, the FBI recommends not responding or mentioning threatening material that is sent to you. It just encourages the behavior, just like publicizing mass murders increases the odds of another mass murder in the next six weeks. So the only GOOD reason she could have brought it up is to play the victim card. Or she was dumb enough to talk about it despite the FREAKING FBI recommending otherwise, increasing the odds of getting MORE threatening material.

I can think of plenty of reasons why someone would want to talk about that stuff. Like maybe she believed that it would encourage people to stop doing all of the Massive Internet Toxic Hate Machine stuff.

Also: I'm not sure what we're getting mad at her for now. Is the problem that she claimed to be scared of gamers when she shouldn't have been? Or is the problem that she legitimately was scared of gamers, but it was wrong for her to say? Those two things seem somewhat contradictory - if she was lying about being scared, then that's wrong on its own, and you don't need to talk about how she shouldn't have told anyone about it. And if it's the second one that's true, it seems really fucked up to cast Felicia Day as the one in the wrong for being frightened. The worst you can say about talking about it, in that case, is that it was unwise. But that's not the same as being wrong.

I think the only people for whom she "doesn't come off looking good" are people who are committed to finding reasons, either to dislike her, or to justify a partisan position in favor of Gamergate. That's how it seems to me, at least.