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[ SECRET POST #4019 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4019 ⌋

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[Brooklyn 99]

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Yeah, it always seemed dumb to me too. It just feels like yet another case of high school-esque "group of outcasts need to find someone more of an outcast than them to feel better about themselves" bullshit.

Not everything can be reduced to high school

sorry sorry you're absolutely right.

Middle school.

a cutting rejoinder

I'd say a disproportionate quantity of the drama on tumblr comes from teens and young adults under the American drinking age.

People have been weird about furries on the Internet for basically as long as there's been an Internet, though

my current theory is that people tend to feel weird about places where the boundaries of play and reality are not clearly marked, which seems to be the case with a lot of furry fandom

A lot of the most visible anti-furry trolling got kicked off on 4chan and Something Awful back in 2000. Before then, I didn't see too much drama about it on either usenet or muds, and you could find furry erotica on some of the erotica usenet groups, again without much drama.

I'd put the CSI episode "Fur and Loathing" (2003) as a turning point.

I'm not sure what explanation you're actually pointing towards here - I don't think it makes sense to blame it all on the media, but I'm sure I don't really know.

But I don't think any of that stuff goes to support the idea that people dislike furries just because of high school dynamics.

But I don't think any of that stuff goes to support the idea that people dislike furries just because of high school dynamics.

It doesn't, but you changed the subject and can't really complain when someone responds to your new argument.

Sorry, I misread you as continuing to support the same argument that you initially had supported.

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(Anonymous) - 2019-08-28 11:37 (UTC) - Expand

The CSI episode came well after hating furries was a widespread internet thing on places like SA and 4chan.

I'd actually say it was a turning point for furry hate being so mainstream it was no longer a "cool" meme and instead the 'kill urself furfag' shit entered the territory of very rote memes like "tits or gtfo". Hating furries was too normal and boring.

Yeah, not being on SA or a chan, I really only caught it when the meme started spilling out to other spaces. So I'm probably wrong on the timeline. Still, there was a pretty strong shift about that time involving a lot of "anti" advocacy. (In quotes because that's the term we use now, but a lot of rhetoric is similar.)

Edited 2018-01-05 04:40 (UTC)

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The Geek Hierarchy (which has furries, erotic furries, and erotic furry Trekkies at the bottom) dates back to 2002, which would indicate that their place in the hierarchy was well-established by that time.

f!s can be weird about it as well. I'm surprised we've not seen a "yiff in hell" or a dissertation about how it's all about fursuits or actual bestiality.

I kind of wonder if the whole anti-furry blowup has largely killed anthro species in SFF, which were kind of a thing in the 80s and 90s.

I dont think it's been killed off tho. There are literally two movies out right now about people banging anthros (The Shape of Water, and Hanson and the Beast), and Guardians of the Galaxy has a hugely popular anthropomorphic character. That's just thinking about movies. If we're talking other media I'm sure I could come up with more.

If anything, I would say hard sci-if killed anthros. Anthros are more of a fantasy thing, and when sci-fi authors moved away from Star Wars-style science fantasy, they got super creative with their alternate evolutionary paths and radically unrecognizable aliens.

Anthros are more of a fantasy thing, and when sci-fi authors moved away from Star Wars-style science fantasy, they got super creative with their alternate evolutionary paths and radically unrecognizable aliens.

Not really true, given that Cherryh, Brin, and Niven were among the "hard" science fiction authors with anthro species.

Honestly yeah. I view furries much the same way as I view fandom. It's harmless to me, and it's no excuse to be a piece of shit to folks for liking things that I don't. Just be a renaissance person and be chill to folks to folks outside your social circle.

It's tumblr. You'll never find a more villainous hive of drama and judgery.

Ime most of the belligerent assholes there came across as super young entitled's with no life experience, but who expect everything to fit under neat labels and accommodate their own tastes. I always wonder how they manage to deal with irl when they can barely keep it together online.

The internet has been laughing at furries for years, long before tumblr existed. Why is it a surprise tumblr is laughing at you guys as well.

Most anti-furry sentiment is hyperbolic, exaggerated because hating someone for jacking it to Bugs Bunny is funny. I doubt there are a significant number of tumblr users who actually hate furries and aren’t just joining in on the joke.

For what it’s worth, I’d take furry art over that god forsaken tumblr red nose shit any day.

Maybe it depends on the people you're following

All the people I follow love furries and keep reblogging that post about how furries pay more for commissions

Willingness to make fun of furries is one of the redeeming qualities of tumblr.

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