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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-04 05:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #4019 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4019 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-04 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it always seemed dumb to me too. It just feels like yet another case of high school-esque "group of outcasts need to find someone more of an outcast than them to feel better about themselves" bullshit.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Not everything can be reduced to high school

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
sorry sorry you're absolutely right.

Middle school.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
a cutting rejoinder

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-05 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say a disproportionate quantity of the drama on tumblr comes from teens and young adults under the American drinking age.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
People have been weird about furries on the Internet for basically as long as there's been an Internet, though

my current theory is that people tend to feel weird about places where the boundaries of play and reality are not clearly marked, which seems to be the case with a lot of furry fandom

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-05 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
A lot of the most visible anti-furry trolling got kicked off on 4chan and Something Awful back in 2000. Before then, I didn't see too much drama about it on either usenet or muds, and you could find furry erotica on some of the erotica usenet groups, again without much drama.

I'd put the CSI episode "Fur and Loathing" (2003) as a turning point.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure what explanation you're actually pointing towards here - I don't think it makes sense to blame it all on the media, but I'm sure I don't really know.

But I don't think any of that stuff goes to support the idea that people dislike furries just because of high school dynamics.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-05 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
But I don't think any of that stuff goes to support the idea that people dislike furries just because of high school dynamics.

It doesn't, but you changed the subject and can't really complain when someone responds to your new argument.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-05 03:40 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I misread you as continuing to support the same argument that you initially had supported.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-05 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
I support that one as well, since a majority of "anti" and "discourse" wank on tumblr seems to involve adolescents. You didn't respond to that so much as pull an almost completely unrelated and incorrect claim out of your ass. Now do you actually have an argument?

(Anonymous) 2019-08-28 11:37 am (UTC)(link)
Poo-poo-poo-poo
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-05 02:28 am (UTC)(link)
The CSI episode came well after hating furries was a widespread internet thing on places like SA and 4chan.

I'd actually say it was a turning point for furry hate being so mainstream it was no longer a "cool" meme and instead the 'kill urself furfag' shit entered the territory of very rote memes like "tits or gtfo". Hating furries was too normal and boring.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-05 04:35 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, not being on SA or a chan, I really only caught it when the meme started spilling out to other spaces. So I'm probably wrong on the timeline. Still, there was a pretty strong shift about that time involving a lot of "anti" advocacy. (In quotes because that's the term we use now, but a lot of rhetoric is similar.)
Edited 2018-01-05 04:40 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2019-08-28 11:46 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2018-01-05 07:52 am (UTC)(link)
The Geek Hierarchy (which has furries, erotic furries, and erotic furry Trekkies at the bottom) dates back to 2002, which would indicate that their place in the hierarchy was well-established by that time.