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I hate it when a character is killed off screen. I don't want CGI but I don't want a (space) bus to fall on her, y'know?

Exactly.

Using CGI sparingly (along with doubles and careful shots) to make her present prior to getting killed off (rather than a completely off-screen death) might be okay, but I don't want CGI Leia to be a prominent thing. Rogue One was weird enough. (I would have found it less weird if Carrie hadn't died, since I don't have an issue with using CGI to make living people look younger, even if the result is really uncanny valley, e.g. Jeff Bridges in Tron: Legacy. The fact is that she did die and this is just something the franchise has to deal with.) I have no idea what the current plans for IX are, though, and what would be the best way to deal with Leia. Maybe there will be a bit of a time-jump or something while the Resistance gets rebuilt.

Carrie having passed away definitely made young computer generated Leia weird but it was quick enough that I wasn't bothered by how "off" it seemed. Tarkin on the other hand was unsettling for me every time he was on screen. I don't even mean from a moral point of view (though I can see why people might argue from that point of view) I mean that something about his eyes and the way his face moved especially just didn't seem completely human.

Technology issues or not I'm so torn on IX. I think a character like Leia deserves better than to be killed off-screen or simply never mentioned again but at the same time Carrie's death was so recent that there's a chance any digital Leia will come off wrong, even though it'll be meant in a loving and respectful way. That's assuming her estate gives them permission (I've read conflicting info there.) I would not want to be the person having to make this call that's for sure.

Yeah...I want her to be in it, but minimally.

I'd like to see that too, if it's done right -- like in R1 (in my opinion it was flawless). I heard she was originally supposed to have a major role in the next movie, so why rework everything plot-wise if you don't have to? But it seems like we should've heard something by now if that's where they were going with it?

I'm actually leaning towards recasting, which I never thought I'd be okay with. I actually didn't have a problem with Tarkin or Leia in Rogue One, but for the amount of screentime I'd like to see, I think recasting is the way to go.

TLJ really left so much that I want to see. Leia is in the perfect position to have so much to do in Ep 9. I desperately want a conversation/confrontation between her and Kylo. If anybody is the impetus for Kylo's redemption (other than himself, which is my number one pick), I want it to be Leia.

And I want to see her rebuild the Rebellion and the Republic. I want one of the original three to actually succeed in their life's work and to live long enough to see evil really defeated.

But with Carrie dead, I'm so afraid they're just going to kill her off off-screen or give her something equally disappointing.

I agree. I absolutely want a recast. It may seem wrong to a lot of people, but I think that's because they are too fixated on Carrie Fisher BEING Leia instead of playing the role of Leia. I know that it's an iconic role and it certainly is connected to the actress. Bug in the end, it still is a role and a recast would make sense. It won't happen but I'd prefer it to Leia getting killed off screen, CGI or frankensteining some scenes from discarded footage and cut scenes together to get some more screen time into the next movie.

A recast would absolutely not make sense when the same actor as played the role for 5 movies so far. No, Carrie isn't Leia and Leia isn't Carrie, but apart from Doctor freaking Who, you generally can't just recast a main character, especially not an iconic one.

idk, it's happened before. Spartacus, for example. Maybe not as iconic as Leia. But on the other hand, Leia DOES exist independently of Carrie. It's an intricately built and beloved space opera in which a character more famous than the actress who portrays her named Leia has a legacy. It is weirder to me to not conclude this character's arc properly, than to suddenly get rid of her without doing the character justice.

Of course it could make sense. With the exception of small children people are generally aware that movies are pretend, with actors playing roles, and some of them even have imaginations.

It would make sense. I get it that a lot of people loved Carrie and for them, the role of Leia is intrinsically connected to her as the actress. But the movies tell the stories of its characters, not its actors, and just getting rid of the character off screen or using CGI (which, afaik was something Fisher was actually against doing) even though she still has a place in the plot and a story to tell would make much less sense than recasting the role. In fact, it would be a disservice to the role's legacy.

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greghousesgf - 2018-01-08 01:05 (UTC) - Expand

Linda Blaire's got my vote.

Agreed. I think the best thing for the character is a recast, as much as the thought of not seeing Carrie onscreen saddens me. I think that a much more fitting legacy for the character is to allow her to live our her role and complete her storyline, rather than doing some kind of hack-job or weird CGI or something.
We know they're actors, we can live with that.

I'm so torn. On one hand, I absolutely hate time jumps that are longer than a few weeks... but on the other hand, I have no idea how else they'd do it.
I guess they could start with Leia's funeral, where everyone is sad and has a moment and have Kylo Ren force-bond his way in there for a second? (I do assume that her plot had to do with her son so... as a nod, you know?) and THEN do a time jump of a year or so?
I admit that would be weird but her death just happening off screen and then barely any acknowledgment would be weirder to me.

I really hope they'll tell us what her original plot was supposed to be, because I think Leia deserves the last bit of spotlight she can get.
I don't envy the writers one bit... but I assume this means we'll see force ghost Luke more than was planned, just to keep at least one of the old guard besides Cheewie around.

I wish they would recast rather than burying the character along with Carrie, but I realize that is a controversial opinion.

How. How do they recast a main character six movies in. Please tell me.

How do they ever recast a character, I would ask, if talking to someone who is even vaguely promising a rational discussion about this. Jesus.

Edited 2018-01-07 23:25 (UTC)

Open a casting call?

They just do? Actors have been recast before. Yes, Richard Harris was only Dumbledore for two movies instead of the five that Carrie Fisher was Leia, but that's an example. As is Spartacus listed above, where Andy Whitfield was Spartacus, the title character, for a season, which is more than comparable in my opinion. It was weird watching someone else in the role at first, but they had story to tell and I enjoyed it. Heck, if you go back to the 1960s, they recast Darren on Bewitched after years and more than 150 episodes.

I loved Carrie Fisher's Leia, and nothing will take that away, but as iconic as she was, Carrie was not Leia. And I love the character enough, and she was such an important part of my childhood that I would prefer the role be recast so Leia can be who she was intended to be rather than being given a death that doesn't suit the story or the character because of the tragedy that happened offscreen. I want Leia to live on, even if Carrie unfortunately cannot.

I don't know that it would happen, though, given opinions like yours and how sacrosanct a lot of fans seem to think every aspect of the franchise is.

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greghousesgf - 2018-01-08 01:06 (UTC) - Expand

Did you not see the Harry Potter movies?
Or how often they recast characters in Game of Thones?

I would actually be ok with this. But they're going to have to give her less screentime which makes me sad.

Not a Star Wars Nonnie,

But are they going to kill Leia off, or just give her the type of sentimental send-off/write-off Fast & Furious did with Bryan?

I'm wondering, too. Fast and the Furious gave that guy an amazing sendoff. I'm not a fan of the series, and somehow that still had me bawling. I think what they did was absolutely the correct choice, instead of killing the character.

I feel it's similar with Leia - it feels disrespectful somehow to tweak footage of Carrie to kill her character. I'd rather they CGI or even recast to give the character a peaceful and sentimental "parting ways" rather than a death scene.

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