[ SECRET POST #4026 + 4027 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4026 + 4027 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Bit early today to make up for yesterday!

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #576.
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Comments

[fscom]

13. https://i.imgur.com/tjXne4v.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Is that really her name??? I always assumed her name was Megan.

[(Anonymous)]

She probably changed the spelling because kre8iv spellings r kewl.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought it was a dumb name change too, but wikipedia says it's her actual birth name. That's kind of hilarious, tbh.

[tabaqui]

Meg Cabot (born Meggin Patricia Cabot....)

[(Anonymous)]

I think you've just stated what I could never quite articulate and what is the reason I don't like her adult novels. You expect teenagerhood in the YA ones, that's the point of them. In the adult novels the tone is still teenagery, and it's weird.

[(Anonymous)]

Not OP but yeah, it makes me wonder if most of her adult novels were originally written as YA and tweaked to have more superficially adult details to sell to an older market. I can still read some of her teen stuff, but every time I tried to read one of the adult books I ended up cringing through it or not finishing.

[(Anonymous)]

That doesn't even sound realistic. Doesn't EVERYONE who appears in front of the camera require make up just so they don't look all weird and washed out under the lights?

[(Anonymous)]

Isn’t Nixon’s refusal to wear makeup one of the things that supposedly helped Nixon lose to JFK, or is that apocryphal?

[(Anonymous)]

I've heard that story as well, but don't know if it's true. Supposedly Nixon ended up looking pasty and ill as well as badly dressed, while Kennedy looked tan and confident, etc.

[ketita]

Yeah... and that's also ignoring the existence of effects makeup, or is our Manly Dude too manly for that as well?

[soldatsasha]

I don't know if it's as necessary nowadays with modern camera technology and processing. But yes, up til recently virtually everyone that appeared on TV or in a movie had to wear at least some makeup.

idk if it's about looking washed out so much as looking super duper greasy if you aren't wearing a fuckton of powder.

[(Anonymous)]

It's both, really.

[(Anonymous)]

Last I heard there was a whole makeup crisis rejiggering because HD and conventional makeup did not go well together. I think that's when airbrushing on foundation really came in.

I have definitely heard that the Harry Potter Movies used post-production to erase some serious acne, but they had cash to burn. I don't think it's that cheap or easy to go in and smooth out actors' faces. Not yet, anyway.

I think a good demonstrations of this is how The Americans dealt with Keri Russel's baby bump. They CGed it out at least once in every single episode that season, but not every scene. They still stuck with the old big coats and stomach blockers for the rest, I assume to save money.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there are now entire professional HD makeup lines because the old stuff is very visibly "hey, look at all this makeup I'm wearing!" in HD, even if it's not a character that would ever wear makeup.

[(Anonymous)]

Watch the remastered Star Trek TOS - the makeup on the men is so obvious and heavy.

[(Anonymous)]

I work as a background extra, and they powder all of us at least a couple times a day - and we're people who are usually not even on camera long enough, or in focus enough, to be recognizable. So yeah, you're right, powder at the very least is definitely still a big thing for actors. It's like getting your passport taken; even a hint of shine is too much shine.

[(Anonymous)]

That's a character trait I could tolerate if it's presented as, at best, endearingly stupid. Is the reader actually supposed to think it's hot and manly?

I read the first few Princess Diaries books and All-American Girl, and "sameness" is exactly how I felt about them. The main characters were the same person disguised as being totally different because like -- one lives in NYC and the other lives in Washington DC! One's a vegetarian and the other loves hamburgers! And etc. and same for every other character.

Oh, and here let me rant about something I always wanted to, which is also a great example of Meg Cabot actually being a teenager: in All-American Girl there was this art contest that the main character had to pick a winner for, and the subject was "Draw what you see when you look out your bedroom window." The judges' favorite entry was from a girl in some quiet northern state that showed a field with a deer, but the main character decided it was "fake" and "too perfect," so she chose one that was of a building with angry graffiti all over it. Because real people never live in nice places, and True Art Is Angsty. I wanted to write to Meg Cabot and send her a photo of my best friend's backyard where you could see a pretty view of the woods behind it and find deer in it on any given morning. I guess I had an imaginary best friend the whole time!

[(Anonymous)]

Only city people exist in Cabot's worldview, I guess? Then again, that's a very teenager thought from a city kid, so if that's the intended idea...lol.

I've only read the 1, 2 and 4th Princess Diaries books (I think, I know I read 3, I'm not quite sure which 3), and I remember the first two being fun, me being a teen myself and all, but book 4 (maybe? all I remember is purple cover and thicker than the others) annoyed the hell outta me. Main characters STILL going "woe is me" after all that happened and everyone around her secretly devoting themselves to making her happy and...wow, that really is a teen dream situation isn't it. I guess Cabot is a better teen writer than I thought, too bad the characters don't seem to grow.

[(Anonymous)]

"Only city people exist in Cabot's worldview, I guess? Then again, that's a very teenager thought from a city kid, so if that's the intended idea...lol."

I think it's more the edgy-teenager view that life only counts as "real" if it's troubled, gritty, and grim. Nice places might exist, but they're still somehow "fake" or "phony."

An example of this kind of kid (written deliberately) was Fats from "The Casual Vacancy."

[(Anonymous)]

That's weird, because Cabot is from Bloomington, IN... a small college town surrounded by farmland.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I still enjoy many of her books that I read when I was a teen. I love binging The Mediator series and The Princess Diaries. I thought From the Notebooks of a Middle School Princess was cute once I got over the WTFness of some of the plot points. I adore the Queen of Babble and Heather Wells books. For me, the sameness of the MCs is part of why I enjoy her books (there's something oddly comforting about it), but I have noticed that the sameness doesn't translate well when it's a more "serious" book like Airhead, Insatiable, or Abandon. Then I end up being pissed off at the heroine and her love interest because they're acting like freaking idiots when they need to be focused on something else.

[(Anonymous)]

This reminds me of that story about Jennifer Lawrence snacking so much inbetween takes of that Billionaires Club movie, so the costume department had to come up with new ideas for her to eat without ruining her clothes