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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-12 02:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4026 + 4027 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4026 + 4027 ⌋

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[personal profile] fscom 2018-01-12 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
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[Jodie Foster]

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 08:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe she needs to switch bodies with a Superhero movie actress, just for one day.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
This is a great comment and you should feel proud!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Ha. Thanks!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
what are you even talking about? that sentence didn't make the least bit of sense

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Google Freaky Friday (the 1976 version).

(Anonymous) 2018-01-14 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT: Now I get it! I forgot about that! Good reference, OP!

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I do kind of feel like superhero movies have taken over Hollywood - but she's pretty harsh about it. A lot of people like them.

And she's welcome to write a non-superhero movie.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
i do think that superhero movies are a good example of how incredibly same-y and uncreative hollywood has gotten. white dudes in costume lamely bantering each other through a predictable plot twice a year is hardly great cinema, and yes, the fact that there is so many of them and that they are as successful as they are does take away from... other films. or potential other films. even more so if you consider the very, very limited space there seems to be for female scriptwriters and directors.

that being said, there's some obvious issues with that line of thought, like: isn't 'great cinema' going to vary from person to person, anyway? does everything need to be 'great cinema' to begin with? bland action movies have been hollywood's bread and butter for a long while even predating the superhero craze, and that's because they make money – and would the people spending their money on seeing bland action movies spend that same money on more innovative or creative or even diverse cinema to begin with?

and this doesn't even go into hollywood's general love for adaptations over things that were actually written to be turned into film.

not even going into the whole rape debate, it's been pretty fucking obvious for decades that the only way to make the industry less shit is to start over.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
That just seems like a silly thing to say. Superhero movies aren't my favorite - I like some of them, others are sort of meh. Just like all movies, really. But it's kind of insulting to imply that people who watch movies don't have a mind of their own so they need their movies to be curated for them... but only by smart, high-minded people like Jodie Foster.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 09:28 pm (UTC)(link)
i mean, i generally agree: a lot of it sounds very hoity-toity. but, to play devil's advocate: people can't go make decisions of their own about which movies they want to see if some don't even make it into production because they're supposed to compete with Yet Another Superhero Movie (even if superhero movies are only the example used here and obviously not the highest of evils jodie foster makes them out to be). back to the point: even if it's made, it fights the battle again when it comes to marketing, where investments are based on expected earnings. so there's already curation happening – challenging that isn't a bad thought by itself. ya consumer can't consume a product they never even get close to.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 10:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see that point, yes. But it still seems silly to blame the genre for ruining peoples' viewing habits. A genre doesn't make the decisions on what movies can get made, and it's not inherently bad.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-12 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I see your point, but I think it's kind of crap.

Every medium has popular genres, that doesn't stop other things from being made or marketed. I can't complain that no one makes city builder sims because the vidya market is flooded with CoD clones, it doesn't work that way. City builder sims (and offbeat movies) still get made and still do well. With the internet, they're doing better than ever.

The "problem" isn't that superhero movies (or CoD clone games, or whatever) are taking resources from weirder stuff. The "problem" is that most people most of the time just want to watch a fun movie about fun things. They wanted a hamburger for lunch, not artisanal caviar served in a sea urchin.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
The catty part of me thinks that Foster is bitter because nobody wanted to see The Beaver, a dark comedy/drama starring Mel "Sugar Tits" Gibson.
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[personal profile] soldatsasha 2018-01-12 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
haha it's certainly possible. It does reek of that mindset of tearing down popular things just because your pet project didn't make the grade.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-12 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a fad and it will pass, along with:

* formula white teen escape from suburbia comedies
* formula westerns
* formula anti-communist action movies
* formula talking baby films
* formula sci-fi action films
* formula hard boiled detective films.
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[personal profile] were_lemur 2018-01-13 03:42 am (UTC)(link)
And will be replaced by some other formulaic genre that's the "hot thing" for a decade.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-12 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
There's no comparison, for sure... but superhero movies have brought an air of staleness and sameness to the film industry. That's one reason TV is having a renaissance right now.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 03:02 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like, giving the burgeoning blockbuster budgets and risk-averse executives, something else would have become the stale dominant genre if it wasn't superheroes

the problem is the structure of the industry itself, not the current thing it's latched onto
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-01-13 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not a big fan of superhero movies but Freaky Friday was a thoroughly lame, bland, dumbed-down version of a book I loved as a kid and Contact was a pathetic, dull piece of crap.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
Man, I love superheroes, but I love Jodie Foster more.

Welp.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't particularly like superhero movies either, but they're not exactly responsible for global warming.

Besides, Jodie's been going off the deep end for ages, and her weird opinions have been without merit ever since she's BFFs with violent domestic abuser, racist and misogynist ranting lunatic Mel Gibson.

I'm with you.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-13 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
If the teen horror movies or the buddy cop movies or the teen sex movies or the disaster movies or any other movies that had a huge amount churned out over a relatively small window haven't ruined audiences, neither will superhero movies. I like some superhero movies, but didn't see any of the ones that came out last year. Now, if she said something about franchise movies (which the superhero ones are a part of) and retreads crowding out more original films, I could maybe see her point. I generally like Jodie Foster, but I don't like her stance on some issues (like Mel Gibson) and I do not agree with her.