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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-14 03:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #4029 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4029 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-01-14 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I am a Jew, and idgaf

Also, "belongs to us" gives me skeevies

(Anonymous) 2018-01-14 10:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, that's right up there with the Mormons and their posthumous baptisms.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-14 10:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. Op's further comments only make it worse. They seem like someone who cares only about 'claiming' people for their group , whether those people like it or not. Which honestly is disgusting no matter why you do it.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-14 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. It's kind of creepy.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, let's weigh it against the negative sense. How many times has a story broken about someone with a vaguely Jewish-sounding name being terrible? I don't know about you, but my first thought generally is, "not one of us, please not one of us." Because as history shows, they tend to blame us all for the actions of one. Do you know how much shit that filthy fucker Weinstein has unleashed upon us? There's a reason the phrase "shanda fur die goyim" exists.

So yes, I will offset the rotten apples by claiming good Jews where I find them, religiously observant or not. That's why I have no problem saying Einstein was one of ours, Salk was one of ours, and Leah Remini is one of ours. Whatever reminds people that we often kick ass, not poison the village well.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 01:29 am (UTC)(link)
But if all you care about is the ethnic pride, where does the religious observance come into it?

Because that's what the secret was about - the religious observance.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
The *secret* is about searching for spirituality. I like Judaism as a religion and I would recommend it to someone who is already ethnically Jewish (and of course actively seeking religion), and whom I admire.

The *argument* here is against my daring to state that Judaism is also an ethnicity and therefore I'm being terrible for saying she's a part of my tribe.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 02:32 am (UTC)(link)
Well, no, the argument is about combining the two - about the idea that she ought to be a religiously observant Jew because she's of ethnically Jewish ancestry. That she belongs to Judaism as a religion, and not just as an ethnicity. Which, maybe that's a misinterpretation of what you're saying, but it was how it came across to me and a bunch of other people.

And it's a view that I would object to.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 03:36 am (UTC)(link)
Please see my below comment on "ought".

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
Do you see how it could have come across that way, especially in the additional context of some of the posts in the thread

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
I understand pride about someone being Jewish, but if someone doesn't view themselves as Jewish, I'm not gonna try and claim them.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-15 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Congratulations, you're a decent human being.