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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-21 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #4036 ]


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[personal profile] bur 2018-01-21 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I have the total opposite problem. I just can't get into "adult fantasy", because it's usually so dang dour and full of rape. Or is far too invested in getting the reader/writer's jollies off.

Also, the only series I've seen that gets into the weeds of the socio-economic consequences of politics and geographical/ecological changes is marketed for 9-12 year olds. It's also the only series I've run into that understands that society and technology can change a fuckton within 50 years with the right pressures.

(Anonymous) 2018-01-21 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm with you. But the thing of it is that Harry Potter's admittedly not very edgy. And I fucking love the books. Still, while definitely not light and soft, the whole moral is that love saves everything. The epilogue is a sweet ending. Nothing wrong with that at all, but if you're more into Les Mis-esque endings where half the cast was killed or died of some horrible disease, then the books are going to seem a little... saccharine.

Although I would argue that there are adult books like that too. Not necessarily on the fantasy level, but for instance, a few years ago I read a novel that was supposed to basically be a family saga. I was expecting a really in-depth look at a family and a town through the ages. There was barely any conflict. And when there was conflict, it was solved after half a page. It made Harry Potter look like Game of Thrones meets The Walking Dead. There was one genuinely crushing part, but that was it. And that's fine too, it works for some people, my point is that it was very PG-rated, very Disney levels of angst, and yet it was marketed at adults. Meanwhile, there are some pretty grim books for kids and young adults. Like The Hunger Games.
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[personal profile] rajkumari905 2018-01-22 04:06 am (UTC)(link)
Ooh, what series for the latter?
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[personal profile] bur 2018-01-22 04:52 am (UTC)(link)
It's "The Edge Chronicles". The first book is super episodic and the weakest of the bunch, as a warning. But, basically, the first ten books follow a sky pirate family through four generations (somewhat out of order, for maximum heart-breaking), and over that rather long period of time a whole lotta shit goes down and it effects the setting exactly like you think it should. Politicians take advantage of economic upheavals to boost their own power, social structures change based on availability of resources, technology marches on, etc. Another fun thing is watching how women in the books are treated as time progresses.

There's another set of books that takes place 500 years after those, and everything is appropriately unrecognizable, which is refreshing considering the way some fantasies like to keep things more or less the same for thousands of years.