[ SECRET POST #4036 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4036 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I honestly think you're objectively wrong, and wonder how much YA you've actually read. I find that YA is more daring and dark than ever. It's full of death, war, consequence, even rape. I would say there's a natural hard limit to how explicit it can be, but I'm even hesitant to go that far - YA is well-acclimated with gorey descriptions and such.

The only thing about YA is it usually is way more focused on a teenage protagonist's perspective, so that might create a limit to how description is possible for describing the consequences of violence - just because there usually would have to be a personal connection for the protagonist in
some way (which, to be fair, is likely for a protagonist).

Point being, I just don't think you're correct. I get this is a stereotype, but I don't think it's an evidence-based objection. It's one thing if you tend to find YA writing a little more shallow because it is teenage-focused, and I think it's legitimate to feel less affected by descriptions of war when they are marred with love triangles, etc. But I also don't find adult fiction to inherently be more mature, and I don't think writing grimdark means you're writing realistically.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I agree. YA has had its dark side since the 60s and 70s at least, as in "War of the Worlds but almost all humans are dead, most of the survivors end up mind controlled, and blowing the aliens up kills lots of people."

[cbrachyrhynchos]

That, and a lot of grisly anti-war stories like All Quiet on the Western Front seemed to end up in YA.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Oh, and the contemporary teen violence novels: The Outsiders, The Chocolate War.

And wasn't Harry Potter middle-grade rather than YA?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like "YA" is generally used as sort of a broad, catch-all term in popular discourse.