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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-01-25 07:05 pm

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Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
Anyone ever try one of those? 23 and me, ancestry, etc.

I'm curious but it's expensive.
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2018-01-26 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
The closest one I've done was for my sister's dog. :P I'd like to do one someday though.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
No, because our family tree is already pretty developed, and also I don't care that much.

A friend of mine got Ancestry.com for her dad as a Christmas present and he was really into it but he was also somebody who was really into family history to start with. So I guess I don't know how much that helps.
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2018-01-26 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
My dad has researched our family tree on his side. Found out we're descended from a confederate soldier :/

I know a little about mom's side, and I'm curious to know more there.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Meh, there's not a single family tree out there that isn't descended from some shitlord. Pretty sure everyone in the world, no matter your heritage, is descended from a rapist, someone who owned slaves, a murderer, and someone who had sex with farm animals. Nothing really to be ashamed of.
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] dani_phantasma 2018-01-26 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
That's true

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-28 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
My Mom's from the south and my Dad's from the north; basically, one side of the family spent the Civil War shooting at the other.
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] rosehiptea 2018-01-26 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
I'm curious but I'm not sure I really believe how accurate they are. I don't mean I think they're just making shit up, but I wonder if everything they say is actually true.

(Though I did read a news story where someone found out after one of those tests that their father had been switched at birth with another baby, so I guess it was accurate enough for them.)

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 02:19 am (UTC)(link)
My mum did something like that, and paid a bunch of money to find out about her genetic ancestry. The test came back saying she's pretty much all British, which I coulda told her for free.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 08:09 am (UTC)(link)
lmao

you dream crusher

But at least she found out what the other part was, right?
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-01-26 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I've heard really bad things about those. They aren't supposed to be very accurate at all.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
In what way? Though there's a small margin for error, obviously, all they are doing is mapping trends.
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Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] philstar22 2018-01-26 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
But people have sent the same genetic material to multiple of these and gotten completely different results. They really aren't that accurate.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
Completely different results (outside of error margin) for running the same test? Do you have a source on that?

The different results might just be a simple matter of different tests testing different things. Some companies, like 23, test your mother's DNA. Some tests go through your father (but only work if you're a guy). Ancestry.com is supposed to test in a variety of ways. It's a fact that you'll get different results depending on the test you take, but that's because they are "going back" in different ways and doesn't make them wrong, but you also may not be getting the full story if, say, you only go back through all female or all male DNA.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) - 2018-01-26 23:36 (UTC) - Expand

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I really want to try, purely out of curiosity, though I don't expect to find any surprises whatsoever. Like I feel like my test would come back with a big "LOL KEEP DREAMING, WHITEY" written on it.

Then again, my supposedly upper Northern European stepdad took it, and had a few surprises. The first surprise was that the ~secret shameful Italian blood~ wasn't there (my grandma on that side literally thought this was a horrible blight on the family and tried to hide it to the point of pretending that ancestor was French, not Italian, so would have been delighted at this). Second surprise was they are a small part Jewish (racist grandma would have an instant heart attack if she found out). Third surprise was.... 1% Polynesian. (racist grandma would spontaneously combust if she knew) No one has any idea where that would have happened.

I'd like to give it a shot for fun anyway, but yeah, it's expensive.

Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-26 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
I used to run PCR gels and I'm really skeptical, especially when you get to the tail end of the "oh you're %1 magical pony."

Re: Genetic Tests

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-01-26 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
For one thing, few countries in Europe are homogeneous populations so putting a percentage on an identifier like "British Isles" vs. "Scandinavian" vs. "French" vs. "German" doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Most whites in England will have Scandinavian markers, because England is named after its Scandinavian settlers. And I really doubt that they're shipping with 100-odd pages of technical documentation to say what those numbers really mean.

And 1% - 3%? That's an error bar. Are you 1% Polynesian because you had a Polynesian ancestor seven generations ago, or are you 1% Polynesian because their sample of living Polynesians includes post-colonial and global genetic relationships, or are you 1% Polynesian because those companies want to flatter you and reporting spurious correlations can do that?

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 05:03 am (UTC)(link)
Do they always get that specific? I just want to know the main ones; don't care about the small percentages.

I don't know if it's relevant, but I'm not American. My family is from a country that no longer exists so I'm curious about our history.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I am very proud of my magical pony ancestry, thanks.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 06:01 am (UTC)(link)
I recently talked to a guy who had it done and the thing he was most excited about was that he didn't have the gene for male pattern baldness. Apparently his dad started balding aggressively at 28, and this guy had just turned 28 himself, so when he found out he didn't have the gene he was pretty psyched.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you typically inherit that from your mother's side.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 02:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven’t, but my uncle (mom’s older brother) has done 3 different ones to compare the results—he’s the rich uncle. His must’ve pretty much agreed, but then, he once went to Ireland, found the village his great-grandfather supposedly came from, knocked on the door of someone’s house to ask for directions to the graveyard, and ended up meeting the parish priest on his way home from giving communion to a bedridden grandma.

The priest, who must’ve been in his 80s, actually sat down and talked with him for an hour and told him our last relative died on the street as a drunk in the 1970s, which wasn’t surprising considering what my mom, her and my uncle’s older brother, and both their parents all died from.

If I ever had it done I’d probably just be checking for disease markers and to see if my uncles and mom were full siblings—my uncles looked alike and like their dad, but my mom looked nothing like them and their mom slept around a lot, so the degre of consanguinity between me and my uncle would be different depending on if he and my mom were full siblings.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-26 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but I'd like to see if I'm descended from Genghis Khan.

Re: Genetic Tests

(Anonymous) 2018-01-27 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I bought one for my husband. He's adopted, and he was told his heritage, but he still wanted to try it out. We found out that he was pretty much the heritage that he was told, haha. It was still neat though.