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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-07 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #549 ]


⌈ Secret Post #549 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
114. Reading many different series won’t erase your memories of Harry Potter, but will perhaps cause the books to lose some of their significance in your mind.

116. God, TV Tropes. So addictive, but it can also send me into such nerd rage, sometimes. The entire section on Canon Sues, for example.

124. Mary Sues/Gary Stus really don’t belong in canon series. Original rules have different guidelines compared to fan fiction. In fan fiction, when an OC gains incredible characters and tears into center stage, unless the author is really talented, it usually turns readers off. When a protagonist gains incredible powers and goes on centre stage… well, yeah. It’s a story. They’re the main characters. They BELONG.

129. Hey… you’re right. You’d think that with the success of Dory from Finding Nemo and Jessie from Toy Story, they’d be more willing to try a main female character.

167. …I will always love you, Donna Noble.

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[identity profile] graziaplena.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Nerd rage, YES. I have to bite my fingers whenever I see people adding examples to tropes that DON'T FIT THE TROPE. GAAAHHHH. I feel like an asshole removing things, so I usually don't do it unless it's crazy wrong.

Re: 116

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I was really annoying in the Bring Out Your Gay Dead section, where I argued that Sebastian in Suddenly, Last Summer wasn't killed for mostly being gay, but for basically continuing a cannibalistic relationship that is revisited again and again throughout the play.

It will likely be deleted any moment now. But I couldn't let it stand! The previous interpretation was not coherent in the large scope of the play, grrrr!

Re: 116

[identity profile] graziaplena.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
That's one of the few Tennessee Williams plays I've never read -- it sounds interesting!

Right now, I'm growling over someone in the Dude Looks Like a Lady section that added Mrs. Doubtfire to the list. *hair pull* That trope is about male characters who naturally look/act so feminine that other characters think they're female. They're not men actively disguising themselves as women. Not the same thing.

Re: 116

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
It's my favorite play of his. Some find the symbolism almost anvilicious, but I enjoyed the clear (and harrowing) message. And the film version has Katherine Hepburn and Elizabeth Taylor. Mmmm...

And they have a man disguising himself as a woman in the first image! Shaaaame. Put Haku back where he belongs!

Re: 116

[identity profile] graziaplena.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, the man in that picture (Vince Noir from the Mighty Boosh) is just wearing his party clothes. :)

But Katharine Hepburn AND Elizabeth Taylor?? I'm there.

OP of 114

(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not so much that I want them to lose their significance (can they lose what they don't have?) as I want them to cease to be. That's several hours of my life (not counting the hours at the movies my friends dragged me to) that I will never get back, and I hate that I wasted those hours on such tripe.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Welcome to the internet. To your right we have icanhascheezburger.com (http://icanhascheezburger.com/), and to your left, Youtube (youtube.com). Now, feed it your precious life hours. Feeeeeeed it.

Your friend's managed to drag you to the movies multiple times? Where was the theatre located, in the psychiatric institute from One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest? Maybe where they were re-introducing the Ludovico technique?

Re: OP of 114

(Anonymous) 2008-07-07 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
(Still the OP)

You'd be surprised what people will do for the promise of free food and a full tank of gas these days.

I still felt dirty, but, um. Yay, pizza?

I'm also starting to get the feeling that youtube is as dangerous a thing as wikipedia. Will I start with "psychosomatic disorders" and end on "crayons"?

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
You'd be surprised what I would do for a full tank of gas, and I don't even have a car. That's gold, baby, GOLD!

I liked the Harry Potter books enough (not my favorite series ever, but enough that I finished it. I usually have trouble finishing series I like, let alone ones that frustrate me), but the movies? Yikes. I checked out when Hermione had better hair than I do.

No, you'll start out with a video of a mime performing movement disorders and then a Willow/Xander shipping AMV.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 06:22 am (UTC)(link)
I just want to give you love for mentioning, nay, even knowing of the Ludovico technique. ♥ mental image of people being forced to watch Harry Potter with their glazzies strapped open now askjhajf

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 06:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's the only way anyone has ever finished the remake of The Wickerman. Fact.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
............................... I never need to see that movie, do I.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 06:55 am (UTC)(link)
Not when you can just watch this! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6i2WRreARo)

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
First reaction: What.

Second reaction: What.

Third reaction: Hahahahahahahaa wtf this is HILARIOUS.

Fourth reaction: ... BEES???

R-remind me if that one was in the original too because HAHA WTF all I can think of now is Eddie Izzard. XD

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:08 am (UTC)(link)
No. I'm of the knowledge that the original was good.

In the first film "Cage"'s character was religious and did not believe in pre-marital sex, and was thus a virgin. This was related to the twist ending. Of course, no grown man could ever be believed to be a virgin and still taken seriously in a movie today, so sex was replaced with... bees. I guess.

Killing me won't bring back your goddamned honey!

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:12 am (UTC)(link)
HAHAHA XD

See, bees in the original would not have made it BAD, per se. I do not disapprove of bees. I could scream like a bawling baby if someone poured bees on MY head. But the honey thing was so retarded what and. Yeah. I was pretty sure there was no torture-by-bee!

The thing that disappoints me most about this movie is the screaming in the burning wicker man. HE DID NOT SCREAM. HE STARTED SINGING HYMNS WHILE THEY SACRIFICED HIM. That was so amazing in the original- it was seriously the best part of the movie, so them taking it out was just pure dumb. I'm not religious at all and they still should never have even CONSIDERED cutting that shit.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:16 am (UTC)(link)
And they also have the villagers be replaced to a female-only cult, so not only do we have Nicholas Cage versus bees, we have Nicolas Cage versus feminism. He spends the entirety of the movie punching both in the face.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:19 am (UTC)(link)
*CH-CHOKES* Oh GOD I thought there was something extra-weird there, I didn't realize they were all women!

This movie sends a great message though. DO NOT BE DISRESPECTIN' FEMINISTS. We'll fill your face full of motherfuckin' bees.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:21 am (UTC)(link)
Ha ha ha! I've been reading the wiki article for the remake, as I am wont to do. The article lists about 10 major differences between the remake and the original, but when it comes to similarities:

* In both movies, when Edward arrives in Sister Rose's classroom, and asks the whereabouts of Rowan, she responds with the same line: "If she existed, we would know of her."
* In the end of both movies, all of the islanders wear all kinds of costumes and masks for their festivities.

That's it! Oh, subtly snarky Wikipedia...

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
I had to look on Wiki too, of course, once you said that, and...

When Malus wakes up, Dr. Moss informs him that they revived him the "old way" which means raping him.

I think that may be the best sentence I've ever read.

Ellen Burstyn replaces Christopher Lee as the lead antagonist.

That, on the other hand, may be the worse. ): Oh, this movie. It looks too chock-full of both hilarity and EPIC FAIL. I careen between the opinions of "let us never speak of this again" and "I have to watch it now, it's like being told there's a movie about the Rock punching babies!"

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:31 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't be surprised if there's a scene of that in the Wicker Man.

"Step away from the bike!"

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:40 am (UTC)(link)
Pffft hahahaha. GD IT WOMAN, THIS IS A STICKUP. GIVE ME YOUR DAMN BIKE. This movie makes Cage's character seem like the angriest, most randomly violent guy in the world. XD

I have to wonder, though, how LaBute ever managed to think that "giving the film a feminist slant" could be accomplished by making all the women in the movie part of a delusional murdering psychopathic cult. THAT'S NOT A GOOD PORTRAYAL, OKAY.

I want one of that cult's festivals to involve candy so he can steal it from their children. And then punch anyone who tries to give him an apple (lol irony!).

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-07-08 07:44 am (UTC)(link)
Boy, is my face red. Turns out this movie was a comedy the whole time (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mW8mBzmHo&feature=related). In that case, it's a good thing it got remade, because the new one is a lot funnier. Like the Brady Bunch movies versus that old show!

But no, it does give the film a feminist slant! Feminism just slants into crazy, man-murdering beemiacs, donchaknow?

He would steal their candy. When he's not taking their stupid masks.

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] poisontea.livejournal.com - 2008-07-08 07:59 (UTC) - Expand

Re: OP of 114

[identity profile] julian-black.livejournal.com 2008-07-07 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
But which is worse: wasting a few hours of your life on books you didn't like, or wasting even more hours regretting the waste, posting to F_S about it, and then wasting even more time discussing how much you regret the time wasted?

Those hours are gone. Regret won't bring them back. Talking about your regret won't bring them back. When you go on about how much something was a waste of your time, you're only wasting more time on that thing.

Look, I've been there. I understand. But the only way to redeem that "wasted" time is to move forward, get involved with something you love, and decide not to waste more time on things you don't care for in the future.