[ SECRET POST #4044 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4044 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know. I get where you're coming from, I think there's a lot of truth to your point, but it's also incomplete.

for one thing, I think there's probably a conversation to be had about which characters are allowed to be queer and which characters aren't. I certainly don't think that it's happened across the board. And so, while it's unequivocally good that there are more queer characters, I think people have the right to point it out if those queer characters are predominantly secondary background characters. That's still not an entirely satisfactory outcome. And I think that you can have queer characters on your show, and at the same time, do something queer-bait-y with other characters. It's not an either-or proposition.

I also think, just in general, it would probably be better if we were more specific about what shows are or are not queerbaiting, because the specifics do genuinely matter a lot. IDK.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I think it's fair to say that some shows do try to have their cake and eat it too. They don't want to take the risk of an actual main character being LGBT but they don't want to alienate the slashers, so they'll make a side character gay and then quietly continue playing up the plausibly deniable "friendship" between the two male leads/two female leads.

And then when people are disappointed that their long-awaited "representation" is a minor character who appears twice a season/has no personality/doesn't matter to the plot/whatever and they decide to just continue writing whatever slash ship they were writing before, people use that as proof that they didn't really care about representation at all! All they cared about was their OTP getting together! Well... yes and no. People commonly ship main (or prominent secondary) characters and naturally want to be represented by similarly prominent characters. It doesn't mean all they care about is their ship. It means they want to see LGBT characters they can actually care about instead of poorly written background characters.