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Not characters you hate, but the way a character is portrayed (whether through their narrative, or even how they are filmed, i.e. too many unnecessary ass shots). Any out there that really bothered you?

I liked Stranger Things, but something felt a little... off and uncomfortable with how Will is being portrayed. Like, in a way that seems gross in a bad way.

I just finished the second season, and Will being a victim again was, well, whatever. Fine. But all those scenes with him tied up and only wearing a flimsy short hospital gown, and what felt like several shots creeping up his bare legs were pretty unnecessary. Why exactly couldn't they have put pants on that kid, at least when they got back from the hospital (especially when they were allegedly trying to "burn out the demon" - they didn't think to put some damn clothes on him, and instead turn up radiators to make him super sweaty and hardly dressed?

This alone probably wouldn't have put off any warning bells for me. But earlier in the season, Will is describing what happened when he got possessed, and he says something like, "I felt it, everywhere", stress on the last word, in a way that felt deliberately to me like a metaphor for sex abuse. Especially since we basically saw a scene of the demon "entering" him, while only his face, made this line uncomfortable. I mean, demon possessions as sexual abuse metaphors are a dime a dozen so whatever. But in the first season, Will is evidently used by the monster to incubate a baby, so he was essentially impregnated and held captive.

There's been an ongoing theme of Will, a prepubescent boy, getting weirdly sexualized through his constant victimization. While I can deal with subtle hints and even appreciate the dark and subtle metaphors approached from a narrative standpoint, those sweaty pantsless bondage scenes really grossed me out.

WAT.

I... maybe I'm blind/innocent, but I really feel like you have to be looking at it from that angle in the first place to see all of that...

Nayrt but butting in to say, you not noticing something doesn't make it somehow not intentionally subtextual. A lot of narrative subtext works whether or not the audience notices it, so I've always found the "It's only you looking for it!" knee-jerk rebuttal pretty ridiculous.

Lol! Not even a little bit.

Yeah, I'm gonna agree with everyone else on this one. Will's victimization didn't come across as sexual at all to me. The way you're describing it feels like you're viewing it through a very particular lens that you brought to the text, not one inherent to the text.

I get the metaphor for sex abuse, largely because it seems like every other horror story since The Exorcist has gone there. I didn't see him as sexualized as a result.

I'm with everyone else that I didn't really see it to that extent, but I will grant that the poor kid spent a lot of time in s2 with no pants. I just think it was more to drive up the sickness/extreme danger imagery, rather than sex abuse, though I will also agree that the thing going into his face shot was super alarming.

Stuart in The Big Bang Theory. The fact that he's a loser is a running joke and none of his so-called friends seem to care that he's actually depressed. It's a shame because he started out okay and even charmed Penny enough for them to go out, but I guess his self-esteem took a nosedive after she dumped him. I feel really sorry for him and don't like how he's the butt of so many jokes.

Oh I haaaate characters who only exist to be bullied for comedy. Especially ones that are clearly depressed.

Felt this way about Meg from Family Guy, way way back when I watched that. Not sure if it ever changed, but it just made me too frustrated.

this is one reason I never liked Futurama

Aw that sucks, I feel exaaactly this way about Coach Steve on Big Mouth. every other adult character on there HAS their flaws and their problems but also gets a good relationship, a good job, or whatever else to balance their life out, but that one dude is just a punching bag for life in a way that isn't fun to me and just brings down every scene he's in

While I like a lot of things about Valerie's character growth and arc, there was one recurring pattern that always bothered me , regarding the girls of Danny Phantom.

Lemme just put it this way

Sam- rich but hates it and hides if from people, hates most traditionally feminine things and prefers spooky dark gothic things. Treated as awesome and cool and smart and the ideal girl character

Valerie- starts out rich and thus snobby before an event that causes her to lose all her money and become poor. Only after she has gone through losing all her stuff ,moving to a shabby apartment , and being dumped by her friends and treated as embarrassing for being poor is she allowed to be sympathetic. Only when she becomes the huntress is she shown as even remotely cool.

Paulina-rich and girly. And she mostly only ever shown as being either mean, stupid or the winning combination of mean and stupid. Oh and shallow. we cannot forget that she is shallow and not as complex as Sam and thus is unsympathetic.

Yeaaah. If you're rich, girly and well a girl, you better hate it or you are unsympathetic. Even the school bully was shown to be deeper and more complex than Paulina during the show. Note to dudes- this is not girl power!! this isn't empowering to everyone who isn't the type that is lifted up on a pedestal.

Like I actually like the concept of Sam and I like her as a character when she was written right. But what annoys me is the writers propping her up as an example of the right kind of girl to be. That and the demonization of 'girly girls'bugs me.

Also , and this may be unpopular but I do kinda hate how if a girl from a wealthy background in this show doesn't hate everything about being poor and think its the worst thing ever, she has to be brought down and made humble through her whole family losing her wealth before she can be likable or even considered as a romantic rival. I mean Dash (the aforementioned bully) never has to lose his family's money to be shown as anything other than an idiot or an asshole. So this standard is seemingly only applied to girls and Vlad -but Vlad's case is more complex and different. And he's the major antagonist and villain figure.

Yet another reason why I like Danny Phantom for its good points but my opinion of Hartman's writing is well.. low.

Yeah but, his sister was a preppy nerd/girly girl who was actually supportive and cool at the same time? And Ember was a punk/goth who was bad from the get go. It wasn't a sparkly pink witch hunt, really.

Okay good point.

I'm still not crazy about how Paulina was handled though. :/

If they could give Dash depths they could have given Paulina something other than just mean, girly, or stupid.

I thought the way they changed Mystique's backstory to put her into a love polygon with half the cast made her far less interesting.

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