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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-07 06:30 pm

[ SECRET POST #4053 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4053 ⌋

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Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT

the thing with that is that practically everyone in Hollywood supported Polanski. And I'm not saying that justifies it. But I think, with people who are supporting Polanski, you're talking about people condoning and participating in unjust systems and industries and cultures. And I think that's a lot harder to judge and condemn and a lot more complicated and muddy.

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I guess the larger question is, *why* did they support him? I assume a lot of them aren't violent or even "bad" people, and I like to think most of them have enough of a moral compass to know that what he did was wrong, so why?

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
That's a good question, and I don't have an answer, but I do think that it's pretty much a universal human characteristic. It's not something that's unique to this instance. People are just really, really good at ignoring the harmful effects of systems, and at ignoring when people who they relate to or like or admire or know personally do things that are awful. People are, in fact, extraordinarily bad at doing anything else. And pretty much always have been.

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-08 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, signing the petition is worth a side-eye but so many people were jumping on that bandwagon at the time. I suspect a lot of them were baboozled by spin, and as we've seen, Hollywood has its own good-old-boy network which likely added its own pressure.

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Has anyone on the petition ever renegged or expressed regret for doing so? I'm just curious - because it just seems odd to me that so many people signed it, and I would imagine some signed it to fit in or not make waves or whatever... idk I'm just curious what people have said about it recent years? Has anyone addressed it?

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
All I know is that if I meet this person at a con or a film showing or something, I'll ask him why he did it and whether or not he regrets it, because an act of siding with the oppressor and a system that hurts and overlooks the vulnerable goes against everything I loved about and learned from his work.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
Is it Guillermo Del Toro? Cause I gotta admit that's a tough one for me to swallow

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yes.

I honestly don't know what to feel as a fan of his work, because I want to believe it was a genuine mistake (it *feels* out of character from everything else I've seen from him, because he seemed sensitive to those issues, and he never rubbed me as a bad guy in interviews) and he wouldn't do it now, or he regrets it. But at the same time I know that's rationalizing so I can remain a fan, and I haven't dug any deeper.

But as far as I *know*, he hasn't done anything else bad, so I'm leery but want to think that there's more to the story than "GDT is actually a horrible person who condones child rape".

But at the same time I know it's bad for me to think that, so.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
I think Natalie Portman had her name taken off it.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2018-02-08 08:10 am (UTC)(link)
Why did GDT and Streep in particular sign it?

The're the most jarring names, because otherwise IIRC they've been pretty good on social issues.