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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-11 02:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #4057 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4057 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Not familiar with the guy, but I didn't like Valkyrie at all for exactly these reasons.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2018-02-11 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
I didn't like Valkyrie because she was lazily written. Oohh, tough girl that drinks beer and uses guns what a Strong Woman Character.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think she was presented as "Strong Woman Character" so much as "stock bounty hunter"
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-12 07:35 am (UTC)(link)
"and uses guns"

FUCKING EXACTLY!

I mean besides the height issue where she doesn't look like she could lift comic book Valkyries sword, much less wield it, so I do get why they did it, but She fights with TECH! THIS IS NOT MY VALKYRIE

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe it has something to do with the fact that they're totally different genres in totally different contexts
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[personal profile] lovedforaday 2018-02-11 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Seriously. I have a good chance of encountering a biased cop in real life, not so much a character from a comic book movie.

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[personal profile] sparrow_lately 2018-02-11 08:45 pm (UTC)(link)
whaaaat? nuance? surely u jest

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 03:17 am (UTC)(link)
Logic? In my fandom!secrets!

It’s more likely than I thought!
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[personal profile] lovedforaday 2018-02-11 08:25 pm (UTC)(link)
This doesn't tingle my troll senses but this was posted to be provocative.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-11 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
It does for me.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 02:45 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, how do you get troll OR provocative out of it?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 09:35 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a feeling you would find that opinions are far from a consensus on both counts. Just a feeling.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Racist trolling! We haven't had that in, what, *days*? Groovy.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
You assuming it’s racist because the slaver is black or
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[personal profile] thewakokid 2018-02-12 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'm not seeing the racism.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Who is the guy?

I have seen the headcanon that Asgard has slaves, or at least has a more permissive attitude towards it than we do, and frankly ... I could see that. Norse mythology can be pretty fucked up. :p
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2018-02-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
A Character from Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
The guy is an actor named Sam Rockwell. I haven't seen Three Billboards Outside Ebbing Missouri, but I've heard good things. He plays a cop who apparently is racist.

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-11 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I seriously don't know who the guy is (and no one as of posting has seem to recognize him either) so clearly it can't have been that controversial.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
It’s from one of the leading Oscar-nominated films, there’s been a ton of articles about the film.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
The guy from Three Billboards In Ebbing Missouri

It's been a big thing in film nerd /film critic circles but maybe not outside of that

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[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-12 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
It's pretty ridiculous to draw some kind of moral equivalence between characters in a contemporary crime drama on the one hand, and a live-action cartoon with a crapsack science-fiction setting on the other.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-12 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
It is interesting to me that the moral masturbation in Marvel fandom this year seems obsessed with Valkyrie, and not Loki's attempted genocide, Thor's activities as an imperial strong-man, or the rest of the crew's serial murders, much less GotG where practically everyone is deliciously bad.

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-12 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I saw "Three Billboards..." and loved it. Sam Rockwell's character had an interesting arc. I feel that those who say it's 'controversial' aren't understanding the film. Do people want a racist asshole to stay that way? How is that helping society?

The implication (that I received, anyway) at the end of the film is that he is still a long way from redemption but is, at least, on his way, which is realistic. But then, it ends on an open note, so could go either way. I saw the film as getting to the root of his racism, which was about the anger that comes from a perceived lack of power. He had to be stripped down, to have true lack of power, to understand and start his transformation.

As for Valkerie, I loved her character. Different film so didn't bother me.