[ SECRET POST #4057 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4057 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

It's not for you to say what warnings other people should put on their fic, as long as they're accurate and abide by AO3 rules. Saying "If you don't have stuff that would merit an archive warning, then you should just be using the No Archive Warnings tag" is being entitled. You are not the supreme ruler of AO3. People are allowed to tag the way they want, not the way you want them to. You are not in charge of other people's fic. I keep repeating this because you don't seem to get it.

"But it doesn't make sense, conceptually, for Choose Not To Warn to be some kind of overarching "maybe something might trigger you, i don't know" catch-all category."

Maybe it doesn't make sense TO YOU. People use Choose Not to Warn because they do not wish to put warnings on their fic. That's all. That's all you get. Stop insisting that other people change their tagging to suit you personally. AO3 is not your private archive. If you can't deal with fic that doesn't warn for everything potentially triggering, then stick to the fic that has warnings. CNTW is a clear indication that the author has decided not to do that.

You also seem to be assuming that the way your fandom does things is universal (and the way everyone should do things), but that's simply not true. Different fandoms and fandom spaces often have different customs and etiquette, and that's okay! The solution is not to demand that everyone do it your way.

[(Anonymous)]

First of all, I would just like to reiterate that I am not the only anon who has been making these arguments in this thread. I haven't said anything about how any particular fandom of mine has done anything at all, and you may be repeating what you're saying but that doesn't mean that you've been repeating it to me.

Second, I don't see how it's "entitled". Can we please stop using that word here? As far as I can see, this is a discussion about the proper use of tags. It's no more entitled to have an opinion about how tags should be used than it is to have an opinion about the proper usage of a word.

Third: I don't expect that anyone will actually change the way that they tag fics. People are clearly invested in using the system this way, they clearly have various objections to the idea of tagging fics in a more discrete way, they're very committed to not using warnings, and none of that is likely to change at any point in the future. I'd prefer it if they did change, and I'm trying to articulate why that is and why I think it would be better if people didn't use it that way. And I would also hope that I can make it a little easier to understand where some of the other anons that you've apparently been arguing with have been coming from. But I don't expect any active change to come, which is why I've tried to stay out of the thread before my previous post, but it just seemed like there were a lot of crossed wires in the conversation.

I hope that helps clear some things up.

[(Anonymous)]

Expecting people to change the meaning of an established tag to suit your specific reading preferences without regard for how this negatively affects them or other readers is outrageously, extravagantly entitled. Own your entitlement. Denying how entitled you are at this point of the discussion only outs you as a troll or someone desperately in need of treatment for a cluster B personality disorder. You are so entitled that rich white men across the globe are in awe of your staggering sense of entitlement.

[(Anonymous)]

Denying how entitled you are at this point of the discussion only outs you as a troll or someone desperately in need of treatment for a cluster B personality disorder.

I would like to say for the third time in this thread that the assumptions that you're making based on the belief that only one anon has disagreed with you in this thread are incorrect.

I don't expect that anyone else will change their behavior. I wish they would, and I think it would be a basically better system for everyone if they did, but I don't expect that they will.

I'm not even sure what else to say.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

It wouldn't be better for everyone. Certainly not for the people who dislike your ideas for an improved system, or the people who don't like using warnings.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it would ultimately be better for them, but I recognize and respect that they disagree with me

[(Anonymous)]

How would it be better for them?

[(Anonymous)]

Because people are safer when I get what I want.

[(Anonymous)]

Because it would be a more consistent and easier to use system for everyone.

again, that's my belief, and I understand that people don't agree with me about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Just wow. You obviously know better than us pleebs. A million grovelling thanks for your generous tolerance, massa.

[(Anonymous)]

lol you're actually literally calling me a slave master in this discussion over tags

you are clearly the reasonable party in this conversation, can't dispute that

[(Anonymous)]

There is no universe in which jumping through extra hoops to give you your way is better for anyone, and thinking otherwise is an incredible display of entitlement.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

The other anon who replied to you was not me, and I don't know what their issue is.