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Sorry, I know it was a bit reductive, but I don't think that your post wasn't reductive either, so, you know, fair enough I guess. And the language barrier is a problem, sure, but not an insurmountable one, and it's not like a language barrier doesn't exist today if you're a tourist.

I'm definitely not trying to argue that the past was better than the present. I don't think that's true. And I'm not trying to frame the conversation around where you could survive. What I'm asking is where you'd like to *visit*.

The thing is you said we can't change history. A surprise Chinese person appearing in the middle of a lot of famous historic non-Asia-centric civilizations would change history by existing and being taken note of. That already limits it.

If I get to be invisible or pass as a local with local currency and no language barrier, there are places I'd want to experience, but it couldn't be "me" doing so without breaking your rules, even in different clothing. :\

A surprise Chinese person appearing in the middle of a lot of famous historic non-Asia-centric civilizations would change history by existing and being taken note of. That already limits it.

Please feel free to assume that the not-changing-history aspect is part of the mechanism of the time travel somehow, not a constraint on your actions.

As for the rest, fair enough, I'm not disputing that there are logistical challenges to the thing. But I'd still be curious about what places you'd want to experience!

NAYRT, but if not changing history is somehow built in rather than requiring restraint, I’m gonna set up a “punch Hitler in the face” booth and make bank and take lots of pictures.

Listen, you do you.

I approve of this idea.

I'd like to note that I'm not saying straight white religious people magically fit in everywhere! Sorry if it sounded like I was. Obviously they'd be limited too, in that they couldn't go visit like, ancient China or Egypt without sticking out, without a magic invisibility barrier.

I was assuming realistic language barriers exist and you remain the same physical appearance, which limited me to basically nowhere, lol. With those taken away, lots of places!

In no particular order: France on the Western front of WWII, Vietnam during the Vietnam War, Stalingrad during the Battle of Stalingrad, the French Revolution, the day Alexander the Great died just to see what killed him for real, the American Frontier during 1800s, the Roman Republic when Sulla took over Rome

But #1: Black Thursday, 1929

Oops, I meant WWI not WWII.

That's interesting! So it seems like you're really interested in like... disasters and calamities and really momentous things. I would definitely be interested in seeing some of those things - especially the French Revolution would be fascinating, and also Sulla - but it's not the first place that my mind goes to, you know?

I am! I'd love to spectate those things as a ghost like in FPS games after you die.

Contrary to what Wako thinks, I find it somewhat uplifting comparing it to today. Definitely the world has a whole has become a less violent and oppressive place, though pockets of terribleness exist. It's nowhere near the same scale.

You think Chinese people never left China? There's been trade between Europe and China for like, thousands of years. Traveling merchants and all, for one. Sure, a remote village might be surprised to see a Chinese person, but a metropolitan area could feasibly have a few people of Chinese descent just living there.

NAYRT

Trade between places doesn't necessarily mean that there was direct contact between people from those places. So, like, when you're talking about China and Europe, trade between those two places was generally facilitated by extraordinarily dense and well-developed trade networks and intermediaries and middlemen (eg the silk road), more than by direct interchange by specific individual merchants.

I'm not saying that there were never people from China in medieval Europe - there's a few records of people who did it, and of course there's no way of saying with certainty that others didn't do it. But it certainly would have been very exceptional, even taking into account the real links between Chinese and European societies in the period.

DA

Right. A lot of people have the misconception that the Silk Road was a trail that people used from one end to the other, when it was more of a distribution network where goods went from node to node to node with each node being a city. And the further out from your origin you went, the less people spoke your language. It had to go through all the intermediary languages in between, and people at both ends weren't able to understand each other.

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