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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-19 05:46 pm

[ SECRET POST #4065 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4065 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Grace and Frankie]


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03.
[Gillian Anderson]


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[Actress Martha Higareda as Kristin Ortega in Altered Carbon]


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[Supernatural S01E09, "Home"]


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[FX's Legion]


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[Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey]


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08. https://i.imgur.com/846oK7X.png
[The Shape of Water; linked at OPs request, it's a dildo]











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(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Rian Johnson - the director and writer of the film - has said that Kylo was not being intentionally manipulative in that scene, and that he chose to kill Snoke for Rey, not to take Snoke's place.

And his reaction to her at the end also has the interpretation that he realizes he screwed up the relationship in a serious way through his own actions. (That does nothing to shoot it down for good, either - in several dynamics like this, including many of the Gothic romance stories Reylo draws from or has been compared to, a relationship failure occurs in the second act, usually due to the male character's selfish behavior, forcing them to reevaluate their priorities and choices.)

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
I would point out that Gothic romances often don't have happy endings

at all

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 01:25 am (UTC)(link)
*shrug* Doesn't mean it's a end all be all ship like everyone is hoping it will be.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, I don't think Kylo was being manipulative. That doesn't make it any better though. Kylo was desperate and thinking Rey is similar to him, probably projecting himself onto her and thinking she'd be okay with sacrificing her friends like he sacrificed his father. But he was wrong. Just like Rey was wrong about him. That's why they go separate ways while being disappointed the other ultimately didn't join their side.

People say Snoke was manipulating Kylo so him being dead would have given Kylo the freedom to go with Rey, but he STILL chose to be the leader of space nazi's over anything Rey had to offer.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 07:01 am (UTC)(link)
The irony of that scene is Kylo telling Rey to let go of the past while being unable to do so himself. He was not okay with killing his father, hence Snoke's spiel about how disappointing Kylo is at the beginning of the movie.

And Rey was blinding herself to who Kylo Ren really is. He is not (just) Ben Solo. He wasn't going to be the last hope hero for the Resistance that she was seeking. But she was so focused on finding the savior (Luke, Ben) that until the end of the movie Rey didn't realize that she could be that hero.

It's going to be interesting to see what their relationship is moving forward.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 07:38 am (UTC)(link)
Rian Johnson is an idiot with zero regard for good writing though -at least in this movie.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 08:12 am (UTC)(link)
The movie is good

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 09:08 am (UTC)(link)
Not in any sense of the word and especially not as a sequel to a movie that Johnson either didn't even watch or decided to ignore.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 12:34 pm (UTC)(link)
No, the movie is good. And JJ approves of this movie, but yeah, I'm sure you know better than him about HIS movie.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 02:52 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not.
And what's he gonna say, especially now that he has to resolve the mess TLJ was? "Movie sucks, Johnson is an idiot"? Not really great publicity.