[ SECRET POST #4065 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4065 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Grace and Frankie]


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03.
[Gillian Anderson]


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04.
[Actress Martha Higareda as Kristin Ortega in Altered Carbon]


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05.
[Supernatural S01E09, "Home"]


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06.
[FX's Legion]


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07.
[Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey]


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08. https://i.imgur.com/846oK7X.png
[The Shape of Water; linked at OPs request, it's a dildo]











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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

DA

People who consume animal products support an industry that tortures and kills an unimaginable amount of animals each year... No one has the moral high ground here.

[(Anonymous)]

The difference being one side being aware of it and not trying to pretend they aren't hurting animals and the other side pretending to be some saintly animal saviours when they're anything but. It's like online bullies who harass others under the guise of a moral highground.

[(Anonymous)]

A lot of people do try to pretend their animal product consumption doesn't hurt animals, though. They'll talk until they're blue in the face about how footage of animal abuse on factory farms is just vegan propaganda/cherrypicked extreme examples and most farms aren't like that, or how their meat is killed humanely so it's fine, or their meat lived a good life before it was killed so it's fine, even when they buy dirt cheap definitely-not-grassfed-organic-pasture-raised meat and they don't truly believe there's a humane way to kill something that doesn't want to or have to die. The vast majority of people are compassionate and don't want to hurt animals, so they don't want to think that their diet is hurting animals, so they'll come up with any number of reasons why their diet either doesn't really hurt animals, or is okay because it's a necessary evil and can't be avoided.

People who support PETA probably have similar reasons. They want to help animals and don't want to hurt anyone, so if they even know about PETA's misdeeds to begin with, they convince themselves that they aren't that bad (or maybe even that they've been made up or exaggerated as meat/dairy industry propaganda) or that it's okay that PETA "occasionally" misbehaves because it's for a good cause and it probably all evens out in the end.

You can't equate random celebrities with PETA executives who advocate (to use an example from this thread) slaughtering domestic cats any more than you can equate your average meat eater with slaughterhouse workers who beat and laugh at the animals before killing them.

[(Anonymous)]

The people you talk about in your first paragraph still aren't a organisation making money off of the incorrect myth that they're some sort of animal saviours.

And let's not pretend vegans are hypocrite-free. If I just count the amount of vegans refusing to eat honey because "aw poor bees" but continue chugging almond milk by the gallon ...

[(Anonymous)]

Where did I claim that vegans were not hypocrites?

Not all omnivores are making money of of that, but the meat/dairy industry certainly helps to perpetuate those views in order to make money. Not all omnivores make money from that, just as not all vegans drink almond milk or are associated with PETA. But to insinuate that PETA is the only one in the argument profiting from hypocrisy is false.

[(Anonymous)]

Or, indeed, not eating honey because of bees but still buying products produced in 3rd world sweatshops

[(Anonymous)]

Because if you do one good thing, you have to do all the good things?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not saying that but the reality is I'm going to give some stinkeye to people who follow a claimed principle when it applies to bees but not when it applies to other people

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, that still sounds like you're judging people who are trying to do better more harshly than you are people who don't try at all.

[(Anonymous)]

+100000000000000000000000000000

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's impossible to be 100% cruelty free so lets not try at all. Gonna buy a hummer and dump some old packing peanuts into the river now. See ya!

[(Anonymous)]

Do go on, you're being a great example that veganism apparently kills brain cells.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Would you care to actually respond to any of the actual arguments in this thread, or is "lol vegans r dumb XD" the extent of the contribution you'd like to make?

[(Anonymous)]

Airt kept not getting the point so I really am tired of explainng it to them over and over again.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe you just don't know as much about this subject as you thought you did.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe both you and the other anon (if it even is two and not just you) keep missing the point, either intentionally or unintentionally.

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I can tell, there are at least two people in this thread who disagree with you, possibly three. You seem to be laboring under the impression that anyone who disagrees with you is simply misunderstanding your argument. Sometimes you have to consider what the common denominator is.

[(Anonymous)]

There are several people who the other anon and you have replied to as well so maybe you should follow your own advice about "considering the common denominator".

[(Anonymous)]

There's nothing wrong with admitting that you don't actually know that much about a subject, you know.

[(Anonymous)]

What is wrong with almond milk?

[(Anonymous)]

This is true for fruit farms in general but almond farming is the biggest culprit: For pollinating almond trees, they keep driving truckloads of bees from farm to farm, let them pollinate the trees, then pack up and move on. And thousands if not millions of bees die during those transports. So almonds as well as certain types of fruit are not vegan and some honey from a local beekeeper is actually much more cruelty free than almond milk.

[(Anonymous)]

Original Anon

Where in my post do you get that I think I'm some saint. All I said is meat eaters who bitch about PETA are fucking hypocrites.

[(Anonymous)]

I never said YOU said that you idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not the first person to talk about vegans being saints. You seem terribly confused.