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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-20 06:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4066 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
They're almost all just female, tacking on the ~enby~ label and adding "they/them" to their "she/her" pronoun list is a thing they do now to pretend they're not one of the boring "cishets".

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 11:51 pm (UTC)(link)
How can you tell?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-20 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Because they always are the same kinds of people who will constantly post about the dumb old cishets and have the most gender essentialist enby/trans headcanons for characters.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-21 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
Gods, I hope "enby" doesn't stick.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I hope it does. We have words for "a male person" and "a female person", we should have words for "a nonbinary person"

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think "enby" is a good solution to that problem

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
What would you suggest?

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Person.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-21 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
You mean as opposed to genderqueer, nonbinary, androgyne, or just plain queer? Or if we must have another neologism, maybe something that doesn't sound like it comes from a pre-teen cartoon? (It's not all that popular among nonbinary people BTW.)
Edited 2018-02-21 00:12 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Enby sounds like a pokemon.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
It's an eevee pre evolution.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
"You mean as opposed to genderqueer, nonbinary, androgyne, or just plain queer?" Those are all still adjectives. We don’t call a guy "a male" outside of biology labs and radfem blogs.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
http://www.dictionary.com/browse/androgyne

a noun

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt but who in the history of humans has ever used that word? lmao

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
me and me alone. i have so much literary influence that it was decided to be added to various dictionaries decades before my birth.
raspberryrain: http://neutralx0.net/tool/bnmk_e.html (I am not a catgirl)

(absence of knowledge is not knowledge of absence)

[personal profile] raspberryrain 2018-02-21 01:34 am (UTC)(link)
I remember David Bowie, for one, used androgyne to describe his younger self. The adjective form is 'androgynous.'

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-02-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
All of them have a longer history as nouns than "enby," which is just the phonetic of the abbreviation for "nonbinary" and carries all the problems of still being defined by the binary.
Edited 2018-02-21 00:21 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
You can only say Enby if you say it like a cute Pokemon. Enbyenby ENBY!

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
Sure, NB. Spelling it “enby” is some twee softboi~ tumblr horseshit

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
be that as it may, the reason i started using enby instead of nb was because i've seen nb used to mean "not/non black" in uglier places. e.g. "only open to nb people."

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like the more aggressively someone uses the word enby, the less likely that person is actually nonbinary.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
This.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
I'd bet money most of them will drop the nonbinary stuff when they grow up and find value in themselves outside of appropriating LGBT identity.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
I have not heard "enby" before. It sounds like "envy" as spoken by someone with a cold, or the name of a heroine in a teen fantasy novel.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-21 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Fits because those people seem to be terribly envious they're not trans so they need to pick some other label that lets them be not-cis without being trans.