[ SECRET POST #4066 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4066 ⌋

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Comments

[raspberryrain]

I don't really get the nb thing. No, I guess I understand it, but I don't really buy into the nb thing. One of my Tumblr kids is supposedly nb. She just seems like a young woman to me. I don't think I've seen anyone but young, femme women do the nb they/them singular pronoun thing. It seems different to me from being gender-fluid or being trans.

ETA: I remembered one person who doesn't entirely fit that stereotype. LB_Lee, who used to post here, is kind of a "they" by virtue of being multiple, and as I recall one of his five personalities used singular "they."

[erinptah]

People who are physically intersex exist, so why wouldn't people who are inter-gender exist?

I'd say there are societal reasons why young femme biologically-female people would feel more comfortable coming out as nonbinary than various other groups. (And with literally any identity there can be people faking it to be trendy.) They're definitely not the only group doing it. The first person legally registered as nonbinary in the US, Jamie Shupe, is in their 50's and previously identified as a trans woman.

On the other hand, people who insist on identifying as both nonbinary and binary just seem like...well, to use the example in the OP, they want the exposure of the #VisibleNB hashtag without having to give up the exposure of the #VisibleWomen hashtag.

[(Anonymous)]

People who are physically intersex exist, so why wouldn't people who are inter-gender exist?

nayrt but my answer to this would be, if trans identity (male and female) is dependent on transitioning not only physically but socially to the opposite gender, "inter-gender" can't exist because there isn't a social role attributed to intersex people. Unless someone literally wanted surgery to make themselves intersex, I don't think the experience is comparable. Especially when the vast majority of actual intersex people present and identify exclusively as one gender or the other.

[erinptah]

Couple of things here...

- I'm not a fan of any definition of trans identity that depends on society being a certain way for trans people to exist. That said:

- Lots of cultures do have 3 socially-established gender roles. Take fa'afafine in Samoa, for example. What makes more sense: that Samoan people have a special third-gender genetic/neurological configuration that no other race has, or that any human can have that configuration but only certain cultures have given it a name?

- There people whose medical wishes for their bodies fall in-between male and female. Maybe they want to do some-but-not-all of the physical changes typically involved in transition. Or maybe their mindset is "I'm unhappy with my body half of the time, but if I got surgery I would just end up being unhappy with my body the other half of the time, so it's not worth the risk."

- Intersex people are subject to the same social pressures as the rest of us to fit into certain gender categories. Even more so if they're visibly intersex from birth, in which case they're usually subject to medically-unnecessary surgery and hormone treatments to force them into appearing exclusively-male or exclusively-female. Given these circumstances, it sounds realistic to me that most intersex people would present as either male or female, but I can't find any research to back up whether that's how most people actually identify.

[cbrachyrhynchos]

There are NB people over the age of 40. They don't get recognized because they're not generally young and sexy, many are publicly in the closet because you can't get away with the same shit after college, and the current big trans panic reads like the Heathers reboot.

[(Anonymous)]

.... Multiple personality disorder isn't real. That person was just pretending, trolling or literally insane.

[(Anonymous)]

Uh, I don’t know much about them, but I’ve seen them mentioned as a speaker at conferences abd an author by people I know aren’t their subsidiary personalities, or whatever they call them. Because even someone with DID isn’t physically multiple different people.

[(Anonymous)]

"Or literally insane"

Yeah that's what a mental illness is you dingus.

[raspberryrain]

You could just as easily say the same about enbies.

[(Anonymous)]

Meet my son's spouse, mid 20s, assigned male at birth, genderqueer and they/them