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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-12 05:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #554 ]


⌈ Secret Post #554 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 03:15 am (UTC)(link)
...How...long has it been since you've seen a dub? Seriously, I have never seen a dub age up a character since...Digimon. Which was, like, 7 or 8 years ago? Hentai does it, but that's because of legal reasons.
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Re: 166

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-13 05:08 am (UTC)(link)
Since as a general rule I don't watch dubs...at least 10 years.

ETA: Yeah. I saw the Vampire Hunter D dub in the late 90s when I was running an anime room at Dundracon and we couldn't get a sub.

Wait, no, I did watch an episode of Puffy AmiYumi late one night when we were all pretty drunk.

But as a general rule I've been subs or raw Japanese only since the mid-90s.

Someone got ticked at me once because I didn't recognise the names they were using for the Sailor Senshi in a fic and they thought I was putting them on but I'd never actually seen the dub past the first couple of episodes.

I'm glad they made the Sailor Moon dub because it got a lot of women and girls into fandom. But it still sucked. I think of dubs as a gateway drug and I don't complain about them but I certainly don't purchase them.
Edited 2008-07-13 05:29 (UTC)

Re: 166

[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 05:30 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, then...to be honest, I don't think you really can't speak about today's dubs. Dubs have improved dramatically even in the last two or three years--the dubs of 10 years ago are light years behind where we are now. It'd be like saying "Oh no, I don't use a cell phone, they're too clunky to fit in my purse."

Not that you don't have a right to not like dubs, but...just saying. You can't use an argument against today's dubs by taking assumptions from how things were ten years ago.

EDIT: Oh man, dude, no, Puffy AmiYumi was an American show, first of all, and Sailor Moon is...dude, no, I wouldn't watch that show in the dub nowadays. Except for the occasional comedy that plays around with the jokes for an american audiences--and 4Kids, who's getting out of the anime business--DVDs of the dubs are almost all entirely uncut. They very very rarely change the names--the only example I can think of recently was a character's name being translated (Ahiru to Duck) because the name was meant to represent names of animals like in old fairytales, and a lot of puns wouldn't make any sense without the name change. All the other names in the show remained the same, too, and when the character's original name came up on screen, it was untouched with a subtitle adding a note that Ahiru meant Duck on the screen. Other than that, the only ones that do that any more are kid's dubs.
Edited 2008-07-13 05:38 (UTC)
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Re: 166

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-13 06:33 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, Puffy is definitely a Japanese band.

I don't need to watch dubs, so I generally don't.

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[identity profile] haleysings.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 07:05 am (UTC)(link)
Japanese band, American show. Puffy [AmiYumi is added on in the US so people don't think they're the rapper guy] sang the theme song for Teen Titans, and they impressed someone on Cartoon Network enough that they tried to make a show to help increase the band's popularity in the US. It didn't work very well, sadly.

Of course you don't need to watch it, but if you use those arguments as to why, people aren't going to take you seriously because it comes across as someone who is uneducated about today's market. Feel free to dislike dubs. I'm not going to tell you that you have to watch them--heck, most of my friends are still sub fans. Just know that it's not the 1990's anymore.