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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-02-27 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #4073 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4073 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
she doesn't trust him because he's already proven he'll disobey orders to be a hero and strike a blow even if it's not a great trade in terms of long term strategy. he doesn't trust her because 1) he WANTS to do those things and she isn't letting him/isn't what he expects a heroic resistance leader to be, and 2) she IS being cagey.

it's not conflict for the sake of conflict, and it's not weakly set up. it's conflict because these two good, dedicated people with the same cause have a difference in method and values that gets multiplied by high stakes and leads them to undervalue each other and fuck up. people just miss the very obvious set-up, because they're looking at it through the lens of who they believe poe is/want him to be already, or how much a protagonist character/hero just OUGHT to be trusted, or whether the subplot is too SJWy feminist or conversely too racist, or....whatever.

when people say the setup is weak, that's EXACTLY what I mean by "too invested in their expectations". not even necessarily in a fannish "I want exactly this thing to happen" way, just...they're projecting what they THINK the story so much they miss what actually happened on the screen. Poe's little 'uh what' after talking to Holdo and Holdo's asides to Leia about Poe make all the set up really explicit, but tons of people just...didn't pay attention to it.

(Anonymous) 2018-02-28 03:53 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, I don't have a horse in this race because I don't care about the Holdo vs Poe thing. I only know that I've seen a lot of non-fandom spaces saying she should've just told him (or the audience at least) what was up and so the conflict felt contrived to them. I don't think it was as obvious as you think it was if so many people missed it, which makes it weak writing.