[ SECRET POST #4077 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4077 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Travelers]


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03.
[Joel Kinnaman in Altered Carbon]


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04.
(Black Mirror/IT Crowd)


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05.
[Tessa Virtue & Scott Moir]


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06.
[Little House on the Prairie]


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07.
[Guardians of the Galaxy 2]












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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I don't care about shipping. She's the author, she can write what ships she wants. But the epilogue is both badly written and a bad ending.

[(Anonymous)]

I think that's true, but I also think that shipping is the main reason why people are invested in its being bad, instead of just thinking that it is bad.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon you replied to:

That's probably true. Honestly I've lost my love for HP in general, and I noticed a lot more writing flaws in the whole series last time I reread.

[(Anonymous)]

She is great at particular elements (comedic moments come to mind) but she is not a good writer and those books, especially the epilogue, needed a much stronger editor. I say this as a person who was thrilled with the way the pairings ended up, so my criticism is not ship-driven at all.

[(Anonymous)]

It was really a perfect storm. People can usually ignore canon they dislike and work around their ship being sunk, but the combination of the ending's sappy sentimentality and the puerile "pairing up every single named character for obligatory babies ever after" thing was fatal. In a fandom that big with that much anticipation for each book, it was inevitable that she was going to piss off someone, but she still managed to piss off a truly impressive proportion of her fanbase.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's also one of those things where like... the people who were satisfied with the resolution mostly just were satisfied with it and let it end at that. The people who had a reason to keep caring about the ending were mostly people who disliked it, for whatever reason. So they end up dominating the discourse just by virtue of that fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed.

[tree_and_leaf]

Yep. I don't think the epilogue was necessary (and indeed I think it would probably be a stronger ending if we finished with Harry wondering if Creacher would bring him a sandwich), but it would be a bit weird to wander around telling people that basically I thought it was a bit meh but I don't have a huge problem with it!

[(Anonymous)]

I shipped the canon couples and didn't mind the pair the spares canon couples in the end, but I hated it because I just didn't... care. The ending before the epiloque with Harry processing the end of his epic adventure, feeling okay with there being a happy ending and that Voldemort's truly god, that ending was really good. It felt earned and like it fit.

But the epilogue was just bad. I can understand it has themes of tolerance and a generational divide with how the main characters vs their kids regarded each other, but that wasn't needed to better the story. Those themes were developed in the books already. So the only new thing it added was pair the spares and kidfic.

[(Anonymous)]

Voldemort's truly GONE*, i mean

[(Anonymous)]

LMAO

[(Anonymous)]

That might be true. But just to give my .02 as someone who isn't in the fandom and has no investment in any of the ships... I thought it was bad because I dislike endings where the author has paired up EVERYONE and goes into detail about their kids and their kids' names. It wouldn't matter who ended up with who.

[(Anonymous)]

The only thing I actively hate about the epilogue is actually the names of Harry's kids. Shipping may be part of why I didn't like the epilogue maybe, but they were also mostly so predictable I've been ready for them since book four. (Having a ship that was never gonna be canon anyway helps lol, but I'm not going to rule out shipping influencing my thought process even unconsciously...) But the names, dear god the names. WHY. Instantly went from "I don't care for this I'm just finishing the book to end this series for myself" to "oh god this is awful I wish I hadn't read that" while reading it the first time.

[(Anonymous)]

they were also mostly so predictable I've been ready for them since book four
I've never understood why anyone was surprised. It was obvious from book ONE for me.

[(Anonymous)]

There are worse endings than "They all had babies and lived happily ever after." It's not that creative, but it's definitely not shocking in any sense. But it's written in the most trite and smarmy way it could have been.