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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-13 05:05 pm

[ SECRET POST #555 ]


⌈ Secret Post #555 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 115, 127

[identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
115. The depth is totally in the Extended Universe. But you have to admit, even inside the movies, you can tell it is an expansive world with less than just the main characters in mind. The movies are only a single conflict in the universe--just a small part of a big thing. The races of aliens, planets, ideas and political structure are thought out beyond what the movies reveal. For what they're worth, though, the movies pretty much are just a fairy tale in space.

127. You're definitely not alone. I really never understood how anyone could call those books good--of the chapter I got through, 90% of it was describing nothing.

Re: 115, 127

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-07-13 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
115 - Ah, I meant "depth" as in the complexity and philosophical meditations and beautiful portraits of human nature and whatnot, that the OP claims SW has. The world itself is definitely open for exploration if one is so inclined, but I can't see anything particularly complex and philosophical in the movies themselves.

127 - Eeexactly. And it's not that I'm averse to the topic per se, I love heroic epic stuff, I wrote my MA thesis on Beowulf and Norse heroes, etc. But LotR is just boring and uninteresting. It's like, it's way too immersed in itself to be enjoyable, for me anyway.

#115

(Anonymous) 2008-07-14 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
admittedly, as i said in another comment, you have to watch between the frames to a certain degree. i think i'm predisposed to seeing star wars in a more meaningful light as i came into the fandom after playing KOTOR I & II, and obsidian [and bioware, to a lesser extent] certainly has a way with bringing meaning and characterization to a half-formed story.

#115 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-07-14 05:21 am (UTC)(link)
no, the stupid is in the extended universe, as star wars slowly devolves from an eloquent modern mythology to the poor man's star trek. not that there isn't anything of quality, but some of the EU material is so meaningless it's literally painful.

also, fairy tales have depth. mythological fables have depth. these are the kinds of stories human civilization has been shaped by for thousands of years.

Re: #115 OP

[identity profile] kyriesanctus.livejournal.com 2008-07-14 05:26 am (UTC)(link)
Hostile much? That's why I can't really respect your opinion.

My EU, I'm reaching more towards Knights of the Old Republic, some of the shorter stories of side characters, rather than further generations of characters, like Han and Leia's kids and stuff.

I never said fairy tales lacked depth. I said "Star Wars is just a fairy tale in space." It has the same depth, but the biggest difference that probably makes it more interesting for adults is the space aspect. Sorry if you didn't glean that off of my initial response.

Re: #115 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-07-14 05:54 am (UTC)(link)
my secret is hostile, but i'm actually not trying to be hostile in my comments. if it comes off that way, it's not the way it was intended. i just meant to clarify that the universal embrace [or at least begrudging respect] of ALL canon, including the blatantly ridiculous parts of the EU is part of the problem i have with the fandom. i mean, seriously, aliens from another galaxy? a new sith order lead by a guy in a sentient krayt dragon suit?

woah, i think i've spent one too many hours on wookieepedia.