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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-03-09 06:34 pm

[ SECRET POST #4083 ]


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(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
He didn't 'predate' on anyone. You're taking agency away from women who made the choice to sleep with him. From what I've heard, he slept around on his wife (like half the population has 'cheated' at least once), but he never coerced anyone.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 03:24 am (UTC)(link)
Depends on how young the actresses in question are. When you're dealing with a major power imbalance like director/showrunner vs. lesser known actresses who rely on that director for a job, it's not taking away anyone's agency to suggest that they're not on equal power levels.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 04:18 am (UTC)(link)
like

if one person is in a position of authority over another, and they're also having sex, it's not unreasonable to be concerned about that. It doesn't mean that every such relationship is coercive, but there are grounds for dubiousness in situations like that. it's not "taking agency away" from anyone to think that. it's a reason for concern. it is a territory that is full of dubious, fucked-up situations.

Are you also defending (for instance) college professors sleeping with their students?

(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 05:35 am (UTC)(link)
you might have a point if he was single and good-looking, but he's not. for some of those women he controls whether or not they advance in their careers and saying no to him could possibly end their career.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Devil’s advocate: I just think that if there was coercion on his part, we would have heard of it by now. #MeToo peaked quite awhile ago and people way more high-profile than Whedon were exposed.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-10 08:59 am (UTC)(link)
"Coercion" is a fuzzy, ambiguous category, especially when you're talking about someone in a position that gives them a great amount of implicit, unspoken power - like being a powerful director/producer. There's a range of things that could happen, a lot of them invisible or subtle, that could easily be dangerous. That's kind of what happens in those situations.

Also - and this is something I think is true just in general, not a comment on this specific instance, but: I really don't think that we've heard of all of the #MeToo stuff that's out there. In Hollywood or any other field. It seems extremely unlikely to me, that all of it would have come out - there's so many people and so many buried secrets and all the rest of it.