[ SECRET POST #4088 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4088 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Well it's not always a love triangle situation, is it? Especially if you're dealing with (for example) slash fic where A/B only exists in canon as subtext and A/C are supposedly happily married. A lot of writers and readers in that situations prefer to brush A/C under the rug rather than try and shoehorn in a love triangle when they just want A/B hurt/comfort or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

Right but again, that gets down to "this is a ship fic that doesn't ship it the way I ship it!" and not "is this an A/B shipfic or not?"

When you say "A/B shipfic" it doesn't automatically mean that all canon is erased, and even that example is a question of how people want the ship to be shipped. Not whether it's a shipfic.

A/B happening where C doesn't exist is a shipfic. A/B happening after A/C divorces and B comforts A over it is also just as much a shipfic. Someone expecting or wanting the latter doesn't mean they want a not-shipfic. They just want a different kind.

[(Anonymous)]

Not necessarily. Someone could be complaining about it because C is their favorite character and they wish there was more fic about C or A/C instead of fic about A/B. It's gauche to beg for fic, so they try and make their complaint more valid by claiming that A/B writers are to blame for the lack of C, or that A/B writers are doing something genuinely wrong by not focusing on C in their fics.

I mean I guess you could boil any complaint about a shipfic to "this doesn't ship it the way I ship it!" whether it's a complaint over the lack of A/C in A/B fic or a complaint about how A is always the designated woobie. But I think that's perhaps a bit reductive.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think your example there counts as "complain[ing] about [A/B] ship-fic being only about the [A/B] ship." That would be "complaining that A/B ship-fic isn't A/C ship-fic." I know it happens, but I don't think that's what OP is talking about.

It sounds more like they think it's weird when people complain that A/B shipfic is missing C, D, and E entirely, because their - reductive, it could be said - definition of shipfic is that nothing else but A/B matters. Even when the exclusion of all else could make the characters OOC or remove large parts of the canon drama.

Granted, A and B in fantasy fairy space where nothing ever happened and everything is a blank slate super-AU, is technically a shipfic. Harry the teenage barista and Hermoine the hipster writer meeting up in a cafe and eloping to go shop for curtains is, technically, a shipfic. To use that as the default definition, or be confused why someone would ask "but where did their major character-altering canon relationships that would normally impact how this ship could happen in big ways, go?", is a bit weird.