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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-17 05:35 pm

[ SECRET POST #559 ]


⌈ Secret Post #559 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (animagus fairlight)

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-17 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
137. This kind of thing is always a matter of opinion. I like their acting fine. And the show.

131. You and all the rest of us. I have playlists for my RP pairings.

130. There are lots of Saint-Germain fans, but Chelsea Quinn Yarbro is adamantly against fanfic and has rabid lawyers, the kind that you have to summon from hell, not call from the phone book.

129. It was all too stupid to be tragic. Lalalalalalalalalalala didn't happen.

120. Um, characters are not real people who deserve respect; they're only as good as they're written to be. Mo is kind of dumb in the show. Given two choices, he is almost as bad as Peter for always making the wrong one. With all the love and respect in the world for the actor, his culture and his considerable beauty, Mohinder is the world's blondest desi. I don't have a lot of respect for Mohinder. And I think he was happy with "Zane". They were hot together, so I ship them, even though it's pretty damn sad when Sylar is the person who has to take care of you because you're kind of an idiot about life. If it were possible for Sylar to be redeemed then they could have a happy life together someday. But it probably isn't. That's okay. I don't ship Mylar for the curtain fic, I ship it for the twisted kinky sex. I don't see the subtext with Matt and Mo. They live together for the sake of Molly, they bicker a lot. They act like people who've been married 20 years, or long-term roommates. Not lovers. Four months ago Matt had just left Janice. What, did the honeymoon last ten minutes? If we're going to talk about what people deserve, Matt deserves someone who is really into him after X years of Janice, not someone who bitches at him all the time after only four months. Mohinder...is going to wander into his own destruction anyway; it might as well be hot.

109. I call troll. "Past her prime"? She's hot and she's young. I don't know who she is but she is no hag.

106. I think it's more likely that some unresolved issue from your own family history makes you attracted to both h/c and messed up men. Maybe there was someone in your family whose addictive behaviour affected your parents even though you may never have known of it. Talk to Co-Dependents Anonymous or Alateen/Adult Children of Alcoholics.

101. I'm not an atheist but he is sure awesome. And I fucking love his show.
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[identity profile] kittenmommy.livejournal.com 2008-07-17 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)

130. There are lots of Saint-Germain fans, but Chelsea Quinn Yarbro is adamantly against fanfic and has rabid lawyers, the kind that you have to summon from hell, not call from the phone book.

Yes this. And considering some of the dreadful fics I've seen out there, I don't blame her. Fans of Saint-Germain should be grateful that there's no fanfic!

Anyway, I don't think anyone but Yarbro could do it justice.

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
hey act like people who've been married 20 years, or long-term roommates. Not lovers.

Wait, people who've been married twenty years aren't lovers? I'll let my mom know that. Maybe she'll stop telling me about her sex life. :/
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-18 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Bwah, you know what I MEANT. Long-term marrieds have sex all the time but they normally wouldn't describe themselves as "lovers". If they've been together less than four months, and the honeymoon's over, something is wrong!

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Hey, having a kid around puts the damper on things! Hee.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-18 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but doesn't being in fear for your life intensify the hotness and passion? It always does in Mylar :p

[identity profile] ryuutchi.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Details, details.

109 OP

(Anonymous) 2008-07-18 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
No. I really do think she's way past her prime. I think her half-deaf ear, the fact that new idols are coming up and beating her on the charts... I think that should speak for itself.
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (Default)

Re: 109 OP

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-18 04:38 am (UTC)(link)
So she's having a bad year or two on the charts. She's still HOT and she could make a comeback. It's happened to people who were less attractive. You're calling her a hag, saying she's old and ugly and used up. She may very well not be doing too well on the charts, but if that's a hag then I'm a fucking crone, and I am not a crone, bb.

120 - REALLY SORRY FOR THE TL;DR

[identity profile] cookie-simone.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 03:54 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, I hate to go off topic, but as a huge Mylar and Mohinder fan, I had to respond. Could you please explain to me why Mohinder is so "dumb"? I really don't understand why the majority of fandom seems to think so. Is it because he didn't figure out that Sylar was pretending to be Zane right away? If anything, I give him credit for figuring it out in only three days - possibly even less. He had no reason to suspect Zane. Sure, he was a little weird, but any normal person would just assume that he's simply a bit shy and eccentric. He had no reason to believe he was Sylar, either - for all he knew, Sylar was still being held by the company - It would've been strange for him to jump to that conclusion that quickly.

Another thing that I have to give him credit for is that once he found out, instead of running away like most people would, he managed to stay cool, keep his heart rate down so that Sylar would not be able to tell that something's wrong (I don't know how he did that), and calmly maneuver Sylar into his trap. His pride and desire for vengeance ended up getting the best of him in the end, but that still doesn't change the fact that he's the one person who's come the closest to killing Sylar (well, before Hiro stabbed him, anyway), and he did it all by himself - even though he has NO powers - I think that's very admirable.

As for his decisions in S2, I don't see what was so wrong about them either. I feel like the majority of fandom just hates him because they love HRG so much. I love him, too - but the man isn't Jesus - he is wrong sometimes. And for that matter, I don't see why someone has to be "wrong", they both simply have different priorities, and both are understandable. Bennet's first priority is to protect his family, Mohinder's is to look out for the greater good. Aligning himself with the company made much more sense at the time: he needed them to provide him with the resources to stop the virus. And what's more important? Trying to help stop a virus that could potentially end up killing 93% of the population, or helping Bennet "take down the company"? Not to mention that the last time that they spoke before Mohinder decided to come clean to Bob, Bennet practically told him that he's expendable. AND he failed to mention that he had just killed that "old friend" who "helped him" find those paintings. IMO, Mohinder would've been stupid to trust Bennet after that. If anything, Mohinder is just impulsive. He should've tried to take the time to discuss things with Bennet first, but being impulsive doesn't make you stupid.

I could go on and on about other things that fans complained about - like him taking Molly to the company (which turned out great!), or refusing to inject Monica with the virus (which also turned out well!) - but this comment is already WAY past tl;dr. I'm sorry about that... I have a tendency of writing long monologues, which I guess is fitting coming from a Mohinder fan. Thanks for taking the time to read this! That is, if you actually took the time to read this. I'm gonna... go now.
cleverthylacine: a cute little thylacine (possessive!Sylar)

Re: 120 - It's okay, we like teal deer around here.

[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-18 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
The reason I think Mohinder is kind of an idiot has to do with the amount of time I spend every episode shouting "No! Don't DO that!" at the TV screen.

Yes, some things that he has done that logically were idiotic have turned out well for him, but I always have the feeling that's because he's got authorial handwavium on his side. Not because it was actually smart to take Molly to the company. Or to infiltrate the company in the first place. Refusing to inject Monica was not stupid. That was moral. I actually like it when Mo has ethics.

I don't like the second season generally, but basically I thought Mohinder never did display a good grasp of Earth Logic, and, like most characters on the show, survived because Kring wanted him to.

Don't get me wrong. I do like Mo. But he's definitely someone who's still breathing on account of serendipity rather than analytical thinking.

Re: 120 - It's okay, we like teal deer around here.

[identity profile] cookie-simone.livejournal.com 2008-07-18 04:54 am (UTC)(link)
I can see your point, but it's like you said: this could be applied to most of the characters on this show. Many of them have gotten into impossible life and death situations and survived because they're the main characters and Kring doesn't want them dead. I don't think that's always the case with Mohinder, though. After all, he did manage to trick Sylar twice. I already mentioned Parasite, but I also LOVED it when he got Sylar to come with him to Isaac's loft (where he knew Bob had placed some hidden cameras - because he likes to watch Momo on his free time, the perve), and then managed to drag things out as long as he did. I think he does rather well for a simple geneticist.

As for the Molly thing... I honestly don't know what else he could've done. A regular hospital would not have been equipped to deal with a supernatural coma - it may have been risky, but I think his decision was understandable. Besides, if the company had wanted to take her, they could've done that anyway. They already knew that she was staying with Mohinder.

I agree about their plan to take down the company, though. That may sound cool, but it was kinda idiotic. They're only two people - three, with the Haitian - how exactly did they expect to take down a huge organization like that? This - again - is an example of Mohinder's impulsiveness. He's too good for his own good. He always ends up getting himself into trouble because of his altruism, but I gotta say... I kinda love that about him. He's willing to risk his own life for the greater good, he's so brave! *squishes Momo*

Edited because I accidentally pasted something that I edited to the beginning. LOLZ.
Edited 2008-07-18 04:55 (UTC)