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[personal profile] morieris 2018-03-21 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Same, though it's people being embarrassed over their ~young selves that annoys me a bit more.

You had fun. You learned how to write and grew on that. As long as you weren't an ass, what's to be embarrassed about.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 10:37 am (UTC)(link)
This, so much. I mean, it's not as if one starts out as a fully accomplished and perfect author. How conceited can a person be to expect that and be ashamed of their early works!?

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I think most people are mostly sincere about it.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Or, you know, some of our shit really was shit back in the day, and still objectively embarrassing if it were tied to us IRL.

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2018-03-21 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
It can border on a humblebrag, but to get your dander up over it?

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm just here to comment that I hope you used the phrase 'gets my dander up' just to go with the cat picture.

Or there are a lot of insecure and socially anxious people.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Also, it can be the exact opposite of what you are assuming - someone has complimented them on their current writing, so they feel the need to be humble and say they used to be bad, really bad and really it's just practice that has gotten them where they are. This is something a lot of women are socialized into - downplaying their talents and efforts when given a compliment. I do it, but I try to be more aware of it now.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have the option to be embarrassed about my younger self since I started writing in my 30s, but I definitely have improved since I learned to dump the epithets. But every time I write it seems I'm learning how to write all over again. It's fucking hard. Every time.
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[personal profile] ninety6tears 2018-03-21 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
It only annoys me when they take down older stories to some over-dramatic degree. And what about five years from now when you hate what you're writing now? Embrace the hell that is self-critical improvement :D
Edited 2018-03-21 23:05 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2018-03-21 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
OP, I think you might be on to something. When I look back at my early fan fics, I didn't know how to do technical things like scene breaks and punctuating dialogue. The stories and writing/ideas themselves were just fine. Except for one HUGE problem with one story (using a female character's rape as fodder for the hero's manpain and for her to discover her inner power), I'm not ashamed of anything I've written. I'd still read an enjoy my pieces.

As for my one of embarrassment, well... I just know I don't want to write those tropes anymore. The world might not be better than that, but I am.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Same. Okay, some of them were dumb teenager-level drama, but the writing and grammar was just fine. They weren't objectively bad, just very clearly written by a teenager.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 03:12 am (UTC)(link)
What's punctuating dialogue? Welp, something that I *still* don't know...

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Depends. I think with a lot of people it's more about apologizing for less good past fics than trying to brag about their recent fics. It's that whole thing where you make sure people know that you are aware not all of your old work is that great (regardless of how good it actually is) for fear people will think less of you for ever having written something silly.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 01:37 am (UTC)(link)
I get that everyone's first writing forays aren't great, but I just hate it when people use that as an excuse to delete their early stories. :(

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
"get your dander up"

Dander is animal skin flakes. Did you mean to say hackles?

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
OP is using a well known expression:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/get-one-s-dander-up
https://idiomation.wordpress.com/2010/06/23/get-your-dander-up/

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 06:18 am (UTC)(link)
Huh, must be from another country since I've never heard nor read this expression in the US before and I'm in my 30's

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 07:31 pm (UTC)(link)
It's American slang. Talk to more people.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 07:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Damn, why do you have to sound so pissy about it

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 07:40 pm (UTC)(link)
While it's definitely a real expression, it also feels pretty old-fashioned to me, and I wouldn't necessarily expect the average person to be familiar with it

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)
It's in a lot of books, particularly American Lit from the 20th century, so most American high school graduates should have run across it once or twice.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-03-22 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. It's like people who are so hysterically sure they take 'bad pictures' (whatever), that they kind of fuck up moments and fun times by doing all over the top to avoid being in the picture. Jayzus - i like you. I want a memento of your face. If i can 'bear' to look at you in person, i can look at your picture.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I think that most writers realize that in order to move forward, they have to be able to look back at their work critically. Unfortunately, we are usually our own worst critic and some people fold under the weight of their own judgement. People just need to learn to be kind to themselves. It's really not as bad as they think. And even if it is, you've learned from it and moved on!

Personally, I've left my old not so well written stuff up. People liked it and sometimes even comment on it to this very day so I must have been doing something right! And I just don't want to be that writer that takes someone's favorite fic away from them.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-22 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know about other people, but I look back at a lot of my older stuff and a lot of it I do cringe. I was very DrAmaTiC. But on the other hand I also looked back at some of my older original stories and they were pretty damn good at description, and I read a few scenes and thought "you know I don't have to edit this very much to OH MY GOD WHY IS THIS RAPE SCENE HERE. DYAUGH."

I'd apologize for the lazy writing a lot more than I'd talk about how I had better descriptive skills in my youth, is what I'm saying I think.
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