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⌈ Secret Post #4095 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Man. That opinion really, really, really sucks.

I just find it really hard to believe you're genuinely committed to Lyndon Johnson's legacy. I just don't really believe you. Because why would you be that committed to defending his legacy that you would be actively spiteful about it several years after whatever news story came out, and also because Lyndon Johnson actually did suck. I didn't even see Wrinkle In Time, it doesn't look great, but this is a real bad reason to be spiteful and shitty about it.

Fuck Lyndon Johnson.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah - I haven't seen Selma so I don't know about this specific portrayal of him, and I won't say he did nothing good, but LBJ was a creep.

Also Ava Duverny didn't even write Selma.

[(Anonymous)]

He was a creep.

And also, viet-fuckin-nam.

[(Anonymous)]

She rewrote it to make it more negative of him

[(Anonymous)]

So she made it truer to life? I can see why that would upset some people.

[(Anonymous)]

Rofl no it’s actually historically inaccurate but carry on

[(Anonymous)]

Do you react this way to all historical inaccuracies in movies? Or is this a special case? And if so, why?

[(Anonymous)]

Uppity bitches annoy me.

[(Anonymous)]

Can you specify who you're referring to as an "uppity bitch", and what you mean by that phrase?

[(Anonymous)]

But war monger omg creeps are a-okay?

Sa

[(Anonymous)]

*warmongering - autocorrect fail

[(Anonymous)]

For films that smear real people for the sake of an agenda yes.

[(Anonymous)]

What differentiates historical inaccuracy in the interests of telling the story from a smear to perpetuate an agenda? How do you ascertain someone's intent in that regard?

[(Anonymous)]

Ava admitted to rewriting the script because she thought LBJ came off too good. She was attacking him in interviews and saying he didn’t really care about civil rights.

[(Anonymous)]

Man you must hate Shakespeare

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah fuck the guy who helped pass the Civil Rights act.

[(Anonymous)]

That was a good and necessary thing. He accomplished a lot of good and necessary things. All of that is true. But I don't think you can really defend his legacy on civil rights and celebrate him as a heroic figure without taking into account the other side of the coin which is the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam. If we're talking about LBJ's legacy, and what kind of attitude we should have towards his legacy, and how much we should respect that legacy, Vietnam is a massive and inextricable part of that.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Adding on to this - and I am no historian but I grew up by his alma mater and have basically always been casually inundated with people's opinions on LBJ - the perception of him as a Machiavellian bastard who didn't care about other people or the rights he championed outside of what they could do for his career is... not an uncommon one. I don't know if it's accurate or fair, but it's a belief some people hold.

[(Anonymous)]

Bad people occasionally do good things, anon. Hitler liked dogs, for example! Doesn't make him a good goddamn person.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah passing the civil rights act is totes the same use Hitler liking dogs. Idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't realize that LBJ was the entirety of his own Congress

Impressive

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah and? You can say the same thing about Obama and the ACA.

[(Anonymous)]

But I don't

[(Anonymous)]

So what point are you trying to make?