[ SECRET POST #4095 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4095 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah fuck the guy who helped pass the Civil Rights act.

[(Anonymous)]

That was a good and necessary thing. He accomplished a lot of good and necessary things. All of that is true. But I don't think you can really defend his legacy on civil rights and celebrate him as a heroic figure without taking into account the other side of the coin which is the Gulf of Tonkin and Vietnam. If we're talking about LBJ's legacy, and what kind of attitude we should have towards his legacy, and how much we should respect that legacy, Vietnam is a massive and inextricable part of that.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Adding on to this - and I am no historian but I grew up by his alma mater and have basically always been casually inundated with people's opinions on LBJ - the perception of him as a Machiavellian bastard who didn't care about other people or the rights he championed outside of what they could do for his career is... not an uncommon one. I don't know if it's accurate or fair, but it's a belief some people hold.

[(Anonymous)]

Bad people occasionally do good things, anon. Hitler liked dogs, for example! Doesn't make him a good goddamn person.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah passing the civil rights act is totes the same use Hitler liking dogs. Idiot.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't realize that LBJ was the entirety of his own Congress

Impressive

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah and? You can say the same thing about Obama and the ACA.

[(Anonymous)]

But I don't

[(Anonymous)]

So what point are you trying to make?