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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-03-24 06:42 pm

[ SECRET POST #4098 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4098 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
It seems a fairly standard antihero backstory to me.

Drinks too much. Fights a lot. Has Done Sketchy Shit.


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Though, if we're talking social justicey implications of characters in space operas...

Who wants to discuss Luke Skywalker running around for three movies with one or both of the slaves that his uncle illegally bought for field hands?

Because R2D2 and C3PO are clearly sentient: they argue, they plan, they worry, they fear.

And they are also considered property. I mean, Princess Leia and her dad might have considered them valied retainers, but Uncle Lars buys them at auction. Luke was lured out into the desert because R2D2 tricked him into *taking off the restraining bolt*. Et cetera and so forth.

We're okay with that because they don't *look* like people?

(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 02:08 am (UTC)(link)
Oh for fuck's sake.

Blame his uncle then who got incinerated. Luke never treated them like slaves or forced them to do anything, they were all on the same mission together.

That's hardly the same thing as kidnapping people and selling them into slavery so they can kill each other.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 04:08 am (UTC)(link)
Institutionalised slavery is still slavery. That is the social system that the Star Wars universe operates with. And that we are comfortable watching.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 03:59 am (UTC)(link)
That's a solid 8/10. I'm not mad.

(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 04:10 am (UTC)(link)
I'm actually not down with your "robots are slaves" argument, but if you're pushing that argument, I don't see where you get the idea that Leia and/or Bail considered them valued retainers vs droids?

I think Luke actually seems to humanize the droids more than anyone else in the films.

LOL, it's the first time I've heard anyone consider Luke Skywalker a slave-holder for his uncle's droids. XD

(Anonymous) 2018-03-25 07:50 am (UTC)(link)
"I don't see where you get the idea that Leia and/or Bail considered them valued retainers vs droids?"

I was trying to throw people a bone.

But ya know, droids are in peril of being kidnapped and sold when they wander off alone (A New Hope, The Force Awakens); considered commodities that can be broken down for parts (Empire Strikes Back); sent in as dispensable cannon fodder either singly or in mass units (Phantom Menace); kidnapped and brainwashed (Rogue One)... it's been a while since I saw Return of the Jedi, but doesn't Luke send in C3PO and R2D2 into Jabba's palace as a 'gift'? And that's a ploy, I know, but the first C3PO heard about this was when he was being given away? That was cruel. The existence of a droid in the Star Wars universe is a very precarious one.

Yes, Luke and Leia, and Poe come to think of it, show affection to their droids. But a kind owner of a sentient being, is still an owner. I'm just saying, the slavery extends to more than Baby Anakin and the Twilek dancers, yeah?