[ SECRET POST #4104 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4104 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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(Vanessa Vanjie Mateo, RuPaul's Drag Race season 10)


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06. [SPOILERS for Shadow Unit]



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07. [SPOILERS for Pacific Rim: Uprising]



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08. [WARNING for rape/non-con]
https://i.imgur.com/n0Letic.jpg
[linked for porn, Spartacus: Gods of the Arena]
















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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[tabaqui]

I have never understood this. I've seen this kind of thing talked about in dozens of tv shows and movies. WHY is it apparently so impossible to find a native speaker of whatever language they're needing/using?

Firefly, for instance - was it really *totally impossible* to find a person in all of LA that spoke Chinese?

It's baffling to me, and i can imagine it's annoying to people who speak something besides English.

[(Anonymous)]

Hollywood is more like an insular bunch of clowns than like some cosmopolitan bunch of serious persons.

You may have to read that as "totally impossible" to find a person in all of LA that spoke Chinese that would put up with the endless sexual predation of the director and keep their mouths shut. Especially in Chinese. Can't hire people who really speak other languages, because then you don't know what terrible (and true!) things they're saying to the foreign press. Not saying that applies to Guillermo del Toro, but in other cases, apparently?

After what I've been hearing about the industry, I'm learning to just not even watch any film or television produced in the USA, in the name of ethical consumption.

[(Anonymous)]

Because acting/star power > language ability.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough, but there's lots of capable actors outside the US.

[(Anonymous)]

Cool. This was a movie made in Canada for Hollywood audiences.

[tabaqui]

But the actors don't run around getting props or whatever. That's someone else on the crew. All it takes is for some person high enough in the food chain to say 'find me a language teacher/native speaker/whatever.
The actors have nothing to do with it, other than they may not be very gifted at speaking another language but...not really their fault.

[darkmanifest]

I imagine it's lack of motivation along with expense. The language sounds passable to the non-native speakers who are making the movie for other non-native speakers, so why put in more effort and money for something most won't appreciate? Some folks just don't have that mindset of "The vast majority won't realize it's crap, but I will, so I'm fixing it". Which is sad. The movie creators who go that extra step make the best films.

[tabaqui]

Yeah. It's just so frustrating. I like to think that whatever random language pops up in a movie is *correct*. I don't like the idea that people just don't give a fuck, because i sure as hell try my damndest to make sure any non-English words or phrases in my fics are correct.

[(Anonymous)]

90% of "self made" translations to my language in fanfics are HILARIOUSLY awkward. Never depend on machine translators or dictionaries: get a beta, for the love of fandom.

[tabaqui]

I do, when i can find someone. I've tapped reddit forums (?) as well for speakers of particular languages. I do what's in my power to do.

[darkmanifest]

Same here, and good on you for putting work in. It's so very cringey when you know what's happening, like when Keanu Reeves' character was referred to as "Baba Yaga" in John Wick. These filmmakers Googled enough to get the phrase, but not enough to find a better deadly-serious comparison for this dude than spooky grandma?

[tabaqui]

Heee. Right? I hate when they do such lazy damn stuff. Or the atrocious, mangled mess that was 'Samhain' in an early Supernatural ep. Just makes me cringe.