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⌈ Secret Post #4110 ⌋

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Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

I make a decision to not think about them. Life is short and having those intrusive thoughts playing and replaying in my brain is a waste of my precious time. I think about nice things instead (cue song from The Sound of Music argh.)

Like Guinevere's arrival at the castle in "Camelot". A old quarry I know in the North of England that's full of flowering thyme and bees in high summer. Mountainsides of heather in bloom. Cats, both large and small. Here is an awesome cat (I don't know what it's doing on an Asimov fansiter, but wth.) http://asimovrobots.tumblr.com/post/168447292453/geekwithsandwich-kakaphoe-willowwish64#notes

All of which are a much better use of my time and energy than being angry. It takes, practice and determination, and sometimes I don't succeed. Good luck, anon.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

Depression is not something you just decide not to have. You don't talk yourself out of it.

Re: Depression and Anger

[philstar22]

I don't think that's what they are saying. They are saying they force their brain to think about other things. Which is actually possible.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt came off sounding a bit hippy dippy, but I don't think that's what they're saying, per se. It's not the depression you're trying to shut down, it's the angry intrusive thoughts specifically. A lot of people (myself included) tend to get caught easily in that downward spiral of angry, guilty, anxiety ridden thoughts and it just snowballs the more you do it. But if you can interrupt yourself early on in the process, it can make a difference. It's definitely not as simple as thinking happy thoughts or imagining a pretty meadow in spring, but you do have to make a conscious decision not to let yourself rehash old arguments in your head, not to re-examine embarrassing moments from ten years ago, etc.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

This attitude is dangerous to people with depression. You are hurting people by promoting it.

Getting through depression requires work. Coping strategies take lots of deliberate practice to become effective, but they ARE effective. A lot of those strategies really are just talking: calling time-out on self-defeating thought patterns, reminding yourself of what is good in life, reminding yourself of a schedule to keep, talking about your problems with a support network. It doesn’t flip like a switch, but it works IF YOU APPLY IT.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

+1
I have a good friend who has depression, and there’s a huge difference in his attitude should he decide or decline to use his coping strategies. The difference is pretty stark, night and day, actually. It doesn’t mean the depression goes away, it just means you actively try really hard not to let it dictate who you are and what your goals are.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

This is a very good point. I wonder if ayrt is reacting to the kind of criticism people with depression often get about why they can't just shake it off or stop being sad. That definitely sucks, but I think it's easy to go too far the other way. No, you can't just talk yourself out of depression, but there are definitely healthy coping mechanisms people can try to maximize their quality of life (and mental health) while managing their depression. It's not a cure, they're just tools to help and I think it's important for people with depression to hear that there ARE things they can do that will give them a shot at improving their situation.

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

No, YOUR attitude is dangerous to people with clinical depression - as in the type that only responds to medication. The type that is incapacitating. The type that is accompanied by confusion, racing thoughts, even hallucinations. YOU are hurting people by suggesting that all depression can be dealt with through "coping strategies."

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

Can you even read? Nowhere did op say "all depression responds exactly like mine and everyone must only ever use my personal cooing strategy which is a magic perfect healing procedure." They said "this is what I personally do, and it seems to work for me."

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

But coping strategies can be a useful tool. I use a combination of both coping strategies and medication. Am I "fixed"? Hell no. But I hate taking more medication than I absolutely have to. I'd rather use coping strategies and a lower dose of meds than take the higher dose of meds and suffer extreme headaches and a complete and total loss of all my emotions.

Depression management is not "one size fits all". Which I initially thought we would agree on, but apparently according to you ALL clinically depressed individuals can only be treated by mediation.

See how hypocritical your accusations are?

Re: Depression and Anger

[(Anonymous)]

*medication NOT mediation