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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-06 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #4111 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4111 ⌋

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Re: Has fandom changed much in the past 10 years?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I can only claim 19 years of fannish involvement, since 1998 was when I went off to college and gained hot-and-cold-running internet and could go to cons under my own steam...

I feel there were still more personal websites for fandom stuff 10 years ago. People used archives and social media, but would also point you yo their site.

The bit mentioned above about "cosplay" evolving from "anime costuming" to "all fandom/con/hobby costuming" is definitely a thing I've noticed. It now gets applied to original costuming and historical costume and so on, not just re-creating stuff from movies and tv.

I think fandom becoming more mainstream has brought a lot of people into fandom, and made people be more open about their fanishness. It's also a lot easier to get stuff - media, fanworks, and merch. A lot of this is due to the internet, but consider that you can buy a Doctor Who poster at Target while you are there to buy toilet paper. THIS IS NOT THE WORLD I GREW UP IN HOLY SHIT!

This goes back a bit more than 10 years I guess:

The advent of digital media and what basically amounts to things never going out of print has been a big change. Who needs to record a show off the air and lovingly archive all those hand-labeled VHS tapes? My DVR catches things with a lot less effort on my part than when I had
to program the VCR each time, and when I've watched the thing, I can delete it with the certainty that if I really, desperately want to see it again, I can always find it for purchase, streaming, or library loan. Media is always available and not a precious treasure that needs to be hoarded. Plus, DVDs take up less space and digital copies take up no space. The catalogue of what's available is also more broad. Anime! Obscure old movie serials! TV shows from the 70s!

This goes back more like 15-20 years:

Something I remember from my 80s-90s childhood and teen years going to cons with my parents is that there weren't a lot of other kids or teens at those cons. People once spoke of the "graying of Fandom." Early in college, in the late 90s, I was on a message board where there were maybe 2 other college-age folks and one teen.

Round about 2000, that seemed to change and suddenly there were kids and teens everywhere! I think it was a combination of 1) Fandom becoming more mainstream in general, 2) growing internet access, allowing young people to more easily participate in fandom without money, transportation, and parental chaperones, and 3) Harry Potter.

Re: Has fandom changed much in the past 10 years?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
cosplay-mentioning anon above suddenly realized I'm at 18 years in fandom so I'm not such a spring chicken either. DAMN. thanks for the reminder.

The graying of fandom is one of my niche interests as far as observing fandom from the outside. You're right that there's tons more young people, and even ten years ago there were. The graying tends to more refer to the gatekeepers of fandom - the old scifi lit crowd that thinks it runs Worldcon and that's the only con to con. Gatekeepers can frankly shove it, the new blood is doing some amazing things and I'm glad I'm still here for the ride.

Re: Has fandom changed much in the past 10 years?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

And I just remembered it's 2018, not 2017, and 1998 was 20 years ago! Still, if I'm counting from when I started college, it won't be 20 years until September. :P

Re: Has fandom changed much in the past 10 years?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-07 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
the old scifi lit crowd that thinks it runs Worldcon and that's the only con to con

I know what you mean! The kind of fandom I saw as a kid wasn't even like the Trekkies in the SNL "Get a Life" sketch, fandom was That Guy. You know, that middle aged guy wearing suspenders with lots of buttons on them, each one bearing a witty saying that might be Tolkein related, might not, and he is Pontificating Loudly about an author whose books I wasn't quite old enough to get into. If he's not wearing the suspenders/button combo, his is probably wearing a tweed jacket with patches in the elbows.

That kind of gatekeeping is apparently what caused a schism that brought about the Big Con in my hometown a little under 20 years ago. The people running the former big con where like "We want to have serious discussions but only about books that get profiled in Locus and do we really need an Anime Room at this con? Really?" And other people were like "That's nice, but we want to have serious discussions about Farscape and video games and then fart around with cosplay. Bye!"