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[ SECRET POST #4113 ]

⌈ Secret Post #4113 ⌋

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I can see where they're coming from. Not all male characters are intentionally/overtly sexist, but there's sexism (even if it's only mild sexism) in every canon, and that affects the way that the male characters treat female characters or how the audience perceives the actions of a supposedly feminist male character.

NAYRT

I am just baffled at the idea of anyone looking at Russell from Up and going "that there is a sexist jerk."

presumably, that's not what they were dong

goddammit, I typed "dong" instead of "doing" and now everything is ruined

ngl I laughed.

We're not saying that the sexist jerk thing isnt prevalent and a problem - it is, especially in TV series and movies aimed at mainstream audiences where everything is edgy and all the canon ships are tropey hetero love triangles and etc etc.

But not a single one? Even in other mediums? They're exceptional because they're so rare, but they do exist. I think it's more the idea that the person can't think of A SINGLE CHARACTER out of everything they've ever read or watched that is making people go WTF.

Yeah no I get where you're coming from, if it's a literal statement about every fictional character across all of recorded media it's not true, but it seems like it's more someone asking a legitimate question, and thinking more about their own specific experiences, and specifically about main characters and fandom favorites and genres they like

it seems reasonable in context i guess

DA

TBH it's just classic F!S to have a huge discussion nitpicking the wording of a post instead of the post's content.

To be fair, in this case, the wording of a post is pretty relevant to its context and the question turned out to not be asking what 2 or 3 people thought it was asking.

Yeah, but we started the slapfight before giving the OP time to clarify.

The slapfight turned out to be correct about what the question was asking though, lol.

I am entertained by it, I have to admit

both correct and incorrect

I see what you're doing! Starting another wording fight!

Re: Tangent based on #1

(Anonymous) - 2018-04-08 22:43 (UTC) - Expand

yeah that is true no doubt

If it helps I haven’t seen Up.

You should, it's a great movie :)

I think the only reason I didn’t was because everyone said “don’t watch Up, it will destroy you” and I’m not good with depressing stuff (unless it’s fanfic then I will happily bawl my heart out because I’m weird like that). I had to hold it together at the end of Monsters Inc tonight because the kids I’m looking after apparently don’t feel emotions yet. Or they just want to see the responsible adult cry at an animated kid saying “kitty”.

The first ten minutes will destroy you but the rest of the movie will make it better - that's the point of the movie, tbh. The main character, the old man, learning that life goes on after tragedy and can still be great.

I kind of jut assumed they were asking for characters from canons not aimed at small children.

Why?

The question of whether they meant a specific genre or kind of character was asked and the answer was no.

they said "rec me characters from anything" not "I am claiming as an objective truth that there are no male non-sexist characters in anything"

Yeah, and I said I can't imagine anyone looking at Russell from Up and calling him a sexist jerk, not that the OP was doing that.

I mean, I was giving an example there.

It didn't sound like you were helpfully giving an example. It sounded like you were mocking the question.

I apologize for my joking tone?

oh come on, don't gimme that bull, your post implied that OP was doing that for sure

If it did, I honestly didn't mean for it to.

The point, replying to the anon that said every canon has sexism, was that that is ridiculous to imagine and no one would do this.

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