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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-09 06:45 pm

[ SECRET POST #4114 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4114 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Tabatha Takes Over]


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03.
[Sherlock (BBC)]


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[Traci Hines]


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[Brooklyn 99]


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[Louisa May Alcott, Eight Cousins where Charlie makes a bargain with Rose that he'll give up smoking if she gives up wearing earrings]


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[Tabatha Takes Over/Tabatha Coffey]


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[Paul Hollywood from The Great British Bake Off]


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[Frozen/Moana]


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[All for One, Portia Vallon]


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[How I Met Your Mother]








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[personal profile] fscom 2018-04-09 10:49 pm (UTC)(link)
06. https://i.imgur.com/3RqWIXy.png
[Louisa May Alcott, Eight Cousins where Charlie makes a bargain with Rose that he'll give up smoking if she gives up wearing earrings]
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2018-04-09 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
what's wrong with wearing earrings? even in the 19th century when a lot of women's behavior was repressed, there was no big taboo about earrings!

(Anonymous) 2018-04-09 11:54 pm (UTC)(link)
In the book, Rose's uncle cousins think it's a sign of vanity and weakness. They get rather sexist about it, really.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
It's a newfangled low-class vanity thing. V. morally compromising.

Also I agree, OP. Charlie was an ass.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
Alcott was a big proponent of the rational dress movement, and earrings were lumped in with the rest of the Victorian frippery and socially enforced body modification they were lashing out against.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 02:26 am (UTC)(link)
I love Alcott and I love this book, but I agree. Let the girl wear her earrings!

I knew the relationship wouldn't last, though I didn't expect him to die. That's one of the main things I love about Alcott; she rarely pairs her heroines with jerks.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 02:49 am (UTC)(link)
Mac is my favorite Alcott love interest tbh. I find the cousin thing kind of eehhh (which she actually lampshades by having the doctor uncle say he doesn't really approve of cousin marriage), and the idea of "earning" someone's love isn't particularly great by modern standards, but he was such a delightfully earnest, unconventional nerd that I couldn't help wanting Rose to see the light, as it were, lol.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I don't know. I never liked Tom Shaw in An Old Fashioned Girl. He was a horrid little boy and was barely present as an adult. I never understood what Polly saw in him and it hardly seems like a romance at all, yet they end up together.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 02:44 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't her uncle tell her that in his opinion it should be more of a priority for girls to learn to take care of themselves first before they started trying to take care of boys? Also, it's from the 1870s, the culture was way different. You can't read a book from 140 years ago and expect it to not feature some weird "morals" that don't jibe well with 21st century social conventions.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 03:55 am (UTC)(link)
Ehhhh, kind of. It's actually Phoebe who says it, and Uncle Alec kinda sorta agrees except that he says that it's a two-way street and the boys are improving Rose as well. But in the context of the story as a whole, I think it's fairly clear that he doesn't mean moral improvements, he means healthy physical improvements like being physically active, etc. The boys are not expected to act as a moral example for Rose the way she's expected to do for them.

“Uncle, I have discovered what girls are made for,” said Rose, the day after the reconciliation of Archie and the Prince.

“Well, my dear, what is it?” asked Dr. Alec, who was “planking the deck,” as he called his daily promenade up and down the hall.

“To take care of boys,” answered Rose, quite beaming with satisfaction as she spoke. “Phebe laughed when I told her, and said she thought girls had better learn to take care of themselves first. But that's because she hasn't got seven boy-cousins as I have.”

“She is right, nevertheless, Rosy, and so are you, for the two things go together, and in helping seven lads you are unconsciously doing much to improve one lass,” said Dr. Alec, stopping to nod and smile at the bright-faced figure resting on the old bamboo chair, after a lively game of battledore and shuttlecock, in place of a run which a storm prevented.


(Anonymous) 2018-04-10 11:23 am (UTC)(link)
Ah yes, Charlie. The shallow society lad who’s death is supposed to be a warning to the reader about what happens if you succumb to peer pressure. The fact that the only child of the fashionable auntie who happens to be the only one who disagrees with Alec’s philosophy when it comes to raising Rose dies from falling in with a bad crowd annoys me more than Louisa’s vendetta against earrings, honestly.