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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-20 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #562 ]


⌈ Secret Post #562 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 132

[identity profile] relmneiko.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 04:27 am (UTC)(link)
For one, most mainstream books, movies, and televisions shows aren't going to be as graphic as fanfiction can be

I'm going to have to disagree, especially when it comes to film. Having something visually presented to you like in film can reach levels that words never can, IMHO. The most disturbing scenes that I can bring to mind are all from films - mainstream or not, I'm not sure what qualifies here, because the visual (and audio!) element is so important.

It depends highly on what sort of books you're reading, and I'd hesitate to make that statement. With TV, of course (unless you're on HBO), everything is censored. But there's a difference between a film/TV rating that says 'extremely violent content' and a fic warning that says "dismemberment, deathfic, tort, sadism, blah blah blah."

Why is it irrelevant? Why does mainstream media get a free card, while as ficwriters, convention presses us into writing warnings?

Re: 132

[identity profile] likespring.livejournal.com 2008-07-21 04:37 am (UTC)(link)
It is irrelevant as to the choice fic writers make. Nowhere did I say that mainstream entertainment gets a free pass (in fact, they get some criticism of their own that fic rarely gets). I've actually seen TV shows (granted, I watch mostly news and similar shows) that have specific warnings such as "This segment contains graphic depictions/discussion of rape. Viewer discretion advised." While that's not my number one cause, if possible, I do think it's a good idea for them to do that. I don't see why it's such a big deal for fic writers to do something similar and warn for triggering content, and saying "But so-and-so doesn't have to do it!" is a poor excuse.

To be clear, I don't think someone should have to warn/label for every single little thing if they don't want, but I do think it's common decency to warn for something that might trigger someone. And since I've heard some people say "but it would ruin the surprise!" (personally, I think if the surprise of rape/graphic torture is more important that not triggering people that's really stupid, but whatever), there are ways to still warn without spoiling everyone else -- you can put the warnings in white text, put it on a different page, or put it at the end of the story with a spoiler space before it, so only people who want to read the warnings have to read them.

If you don't warn, then people are going to be forced to skip anything without a warning; if you do warn like the previous three examples, most people remain unspoiled, but those with triggers still might get to read your story, and you might get feedback. It's a win-win and I don't see what's so hard about it.
Edited 2008-07-21 04:55 (UTC)