[ SECRET POST #4118 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4118 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers Infinity War]



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07. [SPOILERS for Star Trek Discovery]



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08. [SPOILERS for Soul Sacrifice]



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09. [WARNING for possible discussion of torture and stuff]



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10. [WARNING for non-con, possible underage]



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11. [WARNING for rape/sexual assault]

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Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #589.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
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Comments

[tabaqui]

YES!
All the 'we have to go kill the klingons and anyone else who gets in our way' crap really pisses me off. I just do not *get it*.

I remember as a wee thing, begging my mom to let us stay up late on a saturday night to watch Trek. We *loved* that show, it was so amazing and incredible.

This show just...fails, in so many ways. Deep Space Nine was 'dark', but in a way that made sense, and made good stories. This is like - the DC comic of Trek.

The same person as before

[(Anonymous)]

Someone said, I don't remember who, that what's hot in TV right now is grim/dark shows full of anti heroes who hate each other and Trek should never be that. In all of the other Trek series there was a very real feeling of camaraderie, even family and that made for the most moving moments in the the franchise. I cry every time I watch Year of Hell when Janeway hugs Tuvok before the climax battle. Of course there's more famous moments like the end of the Wrath of Khan, too.

I think a lot of writers of these grim/dark shows forget that an audience builds its investment in a story through the relationships that characters have with each other. If every characters hates the others and would sell the others out for a sandwhich, then why would I care about them, either? That was my biggest problem with The Man in the High Castle. Pretty much all of the American resistance fighters were the biggest assholes. Discovery doesn't have that with its characters, or at least no where near as strongly as the previous series.

Re: The same person as before

[tabaqui]

Yes! They seem to delight in making characters utter assholes, or incredibly incompetent, or just - so damn full of cliche motivations and cut-out 'quirks'....

It's so very disappointing.

The Trek 'verse i know and love has true, deep friendships that really make you love the characters, and ache for them, or cheer for them. This new Trek - you don't get the idea that anyone even likes anyone else, or hangs out after work hours, or anything. Bleh.

Re: The same person as before

[(Anonymous)]

Discovery's producers don't seem to understand that time spent in Ten Forward, Quark's, the Mess Hall, the holodeck, etc isn't actually filler. It's there to help create a sense of realness with the characters. A lot of people become friends with the people they go to work with and it's the same in Star Trek's universe. The senior officers all hang out together, like you do with your work friends. Relateable!

Trek has tons of cheesy Power of Friendship crap, but that also makes it wonderful. Discovery is way more interested in being "cool" than connecting to its audience on a personal level.

Re: The same person as before

[tabaqui]

Pretty much this.