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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-21 03:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4126 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4126 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:07 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

You deciding on behalf of all those families that Hydra has infiltrated the UN to the point that justice cannot be served is the same stupidity that Steve indulged in. You are not the law. Steve is not the law. Bucky should have let himself be brought in by the task force. If he resisted, he should have been killed. From the perspective of the law, poor defenseless Bucky was under suspicion for assassinating a whole fuckton of people. That is the truth.

Without the law, we are animals. Please stop with that thinking.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:28 pm (UTC)(link)
If he resisted, he should have been killed.

Wow. Just....wow.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
That's some argument. But what are your feelings for the twenty or thirty police officers who were injured (and possibly killed) by Bucky and Steve, or the innocent civilians driving in the tunnel, including the motorcyclist thrown from his bike *into traffic* by Bucky? Where are your deep feelings toward him? Huh? Yeah, I thought so. Wow. Just....wow.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:51 pm (UTC)(link)
A couple decades' worth of movie logic states that unless a character or civilian is stated to be dead, they're not. Calm down.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if I accepted your supposed logic, necks cracking and all...so just maimed for life! Calm down, just years total of surgery and pain and physical therapy and destroyed careers and lives (for those people who can't afford the cost or the assistance or the time off)--no biggie! Not to mention all the property damage some people just can't afford.

And I should calm down? Bucky should already be dead 70 years. Calm your own wows.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Your hyperbole is astounding.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 09:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Be truthful....you voted for Trump, didn't you?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-23 03:41 am (UTC)(link)
If anything, Steve is the one who is shitting on the justice system. Just like Trump.

That's why most Cap fans are Amurikans.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-23 07:36 am (UTC)(link)
Fuck off, plenty of non-Amerifats favour Cap, myself included. Cap has always a card carrying democrat, not a capitalist shitbag like Tony.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
That's quite an argument. What about all the innocent people who died when Tony unleashed Ultron? If you're so keen on justice for innocent civilians(who may or may not have been injured), what about justice for them? Or is it just Bucky and Steve you have it out for? Tony Stark always gets to walk free, no matter how much blood is on his hands.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't GAF about Tony. I'm a Cap fan and I hate what they've done to his character. Do you remember when he discovered that escaped Nazi hiding out and started beating him up and the cops showed up with Fury and Fury LET THE GUY GO and Cap thought to himself, "Huh, well, this is really fucking weird but I guess Fury has a plan..."

Fury did, of course.

Do you remember when Cap trusted people and listened to people and wasn't a self-righteous asshole who didn't give a fuck about anyone else's opinion on anything?

Ugh.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:09 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly have no idea what you're rambling on about or how it's relevant to a discussion about whether resisting arrest means you deserve to be shot to death.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
.....what?

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 09:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this person must be a huge fan of cops who shoot people trying to run away.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
The law says that people are innocent until proven guilty. There were "shoot to kill" orders out on Bucky--it wasn't a matter of resisting arrest; they were going to kill him without due process. Later we learned he wasn't even going to get a trial or a lawyer.

Explain how executing, without fair trial, a known victim of Hydra's worst torture techniques would do anything to serve justice.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:15 pm (UTC)(link)
The no trial-no lawyer thing isn't canon, just fanon imaginings due to a flippant remark. We see him given a psychiatrist, which is a precursor to a psych eval for the trial. The shoot to kill order isn't canon either, since Sharon isn't on the task force. But regardless, Steve isn't justice. Steve is a common citizen. Justice is the task force. To argue otherwise is specious. You can't just say "I don't think my boy is going to get justice so I'm going to intervene myself." Instead, you APPROACH THE POLICE. Why didn't Steve go through freaking channels?

Because he thinks he is the law. That is the REASON the Avengers need the Accords in the first place. Q.E.D.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
There's just as much canon to support "no lawyer" and "shoot to kill" as there is to support "totally fair trial" and "no death order" so idk what you're on about.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
They SAID he wasn't getting a lawyer. And then Hawkeye and company were locked inside of a hidden base in the middle of the ocean with no trial. The Raft is the equivalent of Gitmo. Then again, considering you are fan of cops shooting fleeing people and POWs being punished you are probably a huge fan of Gitmo.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-22 09:05 pm (UTC)(link)
"Bucky should have let himself be brought in by the task force."

They were NOT going to bring him. They were going to kill him on the spot. Or did you think those shotguns were for fun? They were sent to execute him and the only reason they didn't was because they got caught in the public.