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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-26 07:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #4131 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4131 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Cardcaptor Sakura, Pokémon Black/White, Sonic the Hedgehog, Lord of the Rings]



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["Babushka Lady", JFK assassination]


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[Jessica Jones season 2]


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[Ready Player One]


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[The Great British Bake Off]








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(Anonymous) 2018-04-27 07:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Right? I'm not even hating on cliches, there are many commonly used cliches and tropes that I like. But I'm puzzled at the attitude of "Oh nooooo you can't deviate from the cliche or it'll be a whole different show!!!"

Like... no? Weird, crazy shit happens in TV shows all the time, and if the writing supports it, it works. You can subvert cliches, play with them, defy expectations. You're not locked into one limited viewpoint of a character that has to go unchanged, forever.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-27 07:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Like... I guess to me, there's a difference between a cliche, and a foundational component of a genre. And I think "locked into self-destructive patterns" is a major component of the genre that Jessica Jones is in.

Now, that definitely doesn't mean that she can't change as a character. Obviously. But engaging in those patterns is a central, fundamental aspect of her character, and starting to grow out of them is a major goal for her character and the show as a whole. That's the fundamental drama of that type of character in that type of show - can the character stop doing self-destructive shit and mature, or is the character doomed to repeat their self-destructive patterns?

It's not that it can't change. It's just that it can't change, like, accidentally. If it's going to change, it's going to be the result of a major event happening for the character and a resolution of a major plot point. To have Jessica Jones just not be self-destructive any more would be an unsatisfying resolution of the core conceit of the show.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2018-04-27 10:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yup, totally with you.