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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-24 05:00 pm

[ SECRET POST #566 ]


⌈ Secret Post #566 ⌋

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[identity profile] luxshine.livejournal.com 2008-07-24 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
You know what's the worst part? People who have practically crucified artist for referencing (Which is a whole different thing) and adding their own background/poses/clothes/whatever, and obviously not tracing, are now up in arms defending Nitta's traces as 'not a big deal'.

Referencing =/= tracing, and I have no idea why apparently an artist from Japan gets so much slack (Because even when Greg Land has his defenders, even THEM agree that tracing is bad, and they only argue that Land doesn't do it)

Re: 135

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 06:45 am (UTC)(link)
I think the main reason is simply "omg she can't quit now, what'll happen to our yaoi!" :/ I mean, in the west the artist is not expected to do anything other than maybe saying "I'm sorry"... so the fans didn't expect this reaction from her and her company. :/ (Even though IMO it's obvious that she won't really quit, she'll be back once this incident is forgotten - saying "I'm so sorry I don't deserve your trust, I'm quitting the industry and will never draw manga again" is sort of a standard reaction in such a situation.)

And of course there are the idiots who insist that it's not wrong if someone can't sue you for it. Argh. Actually, it's how Nitta lost my respect, when she said "I'm sorry for tracing photos, I didn't know it was against the law." ...so she thinks it's okay if it's not illegal, or what?! How can a long-time, famous mangaka say this? (In Japan of all places? I can't believe she didn't hear about all those tracing/copying scandals in the recent years.)

/rant

Re: 135

[identity profile] dia-aren-marie.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 12:10 pm (UTC)(link)
"I'm sorry for tracing photos, I didn't know it was against the law."

I'm sorry, what?

Legal or illegal is one thing, but it's just... not right no matter what reasoning you give, especially if you're making money off of it. :/

Geez. This is the first time I've heard of this, but... damn.