[ SECRET POST #4136 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4136 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

I've never heard of Moonlight, so I just looked it up and it's like the polar opposite of Love, Simon. If both were cute, fluffy movies, I could kinda see why that would be a valid complaint, but one is and the other isn't.

[(Anonymous)]

How have you never heard of Moonlight

It won an Academy Award

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhhhh.

You're not exactly wrong but I also wouldn't rule out the possibility that race played a role in it

[(Anonymous)]

They were both loved by critics. But audiences don't generally go out to see depressing as fuck movies.

[morieris]

The OP even says race probably did play a part to some degree. I agree with that.

[(Anonymous)]

Why do people have some type of obligation to talk about a movie?

Or to be interested in a movie at all, for that matter?

Sincerely curious.

[(Anonymous)]

secret is probably in the context of people on social media encouraging friends and followers to go see Love, Simon to ""prove"" that lgbt movies are capable of mainstream commercial success so that more of them will be made.

therefore not supporting another lgbt movie is "hypodritical" - even though, as the secret points out, the two movies are very different both in terms of indy/main studio and tone/genre.

[morieris]

I'd say best picture is enough attention.

bc yeah, A24 is not a huge distributor studio. like 20CF. I'm not upset one got more attention than the other, it's good that both exist.

[initiala]

Which is really a shame, A24 has produced some of the most interesting movies of the last decade. (a lot of which have either won or been up for Academy Awards, right?)

[nightscale]

I saw positive chatter about both in my neck of the internets so I can't make comparisons about audience response, but I can imagine that Love Simon being more mainstream helped towards people noticing it more.

I saw Moonlight but because an online friend recommended it to me, not because I saw youtube adverts for it or posters irl like I did with LS.

I personally enjoyed both for different reasons, as they are very different genres, and am mostly just glad that both are allowed to exist. Having a variety of movie-types for LGBT films is a good thing and I only hope we can get more varying genres as time goes on.

[tabaqui]

I have never heard of either of these movies. But if they're both indie-type movies, they did not/will not ever come to my little town, and I'd only see them if I dl'ed them from somewhere.

But this is the first time I've heard either title, so I'd say that exposure definitely plays a part in *any* movie getting talked about (and being at a film festival or whatever is still pretty niche for most people).

[cbrachyrhynchos]

Love, Simon was a wide release movie from Fox.

[(Anonymous)]

And wouldn't you know it, the one time I genuinely ship and am hungry for a slash ship involving two sexy black men (Killmonger/T'Challa), tumblr fucking hates it so much that they're extra vigilant in making sure it never becomes a thing. Just can't win.

[(Anonymous)]

There are some spoiler related reasons for that JSYK

[(Anonymous)]

fuck tumblr honestly, the purity brigade is such shit

Eric/T'Challah is going strong on Ao3 last I checked

[tabaqui]

Huh. I have seen quite a few fics for that on AO3, though it's not my ship, so i dunno for sure how many.

[initiala]

Moonlight is specifically about the toxic masculinity that is part of many young black men's experiences growing up, and the effects that has on anyone who is not "the norm" in that community. (hence, Chiron growing up to be the muscular tough guy drug dealer, when he was very much the opposite when he was young. He's trying to survive, and burying a vital part of himself, his vulnerability and desire to be with another man, in the meantime)

Love, Simon is...not that.

Racism absolutely plays a part in some of it, but yeah, like what most everyone else said, Moonlight gives you a lot to think about, just the tip of that being "here's a coming of age story about a gay black man". Love, Simon is "here's a coming of age rom-com about a gay high school kid".

[morieris]

^^^^^^^^^^^

[cbrachyrhynchos]

And Love, Simon was a pretty standard teen romcom.

[(Anonymous)]

+10 to what you said

(although the last part of Moonlight had some strong rom-com wibes for about 15 minutes, which was a suprise when I first saw it)

[(Anonymous)]

When you say "coming of age rom-com about a gay high school kid", what are we talking about in terms of humiliation and second hand embarrassment?

Those are big squicks of mine and all the genres you mentioned tend to come with with them. Does the movie avoid those things or would I fast forward through half of the movie?

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, my tumblr was the exact opposite: tons about Moonlight, only the occasional post about Love, Simon. I guess I hang out with too many old people who like art movies. (Note: I am an old person who likes art movies). But people never want to take responsibility for what they see on a totally self-curated site like tumblr. If they're talking about mainstream media, that's different.

[(Anonymous)]

I was really looking forward to watching Moonlight. Absolutely hated it and can't understand why it won Best Picture over the much, much superior Fences!

[bio_obscura]

I mean it won the Oscar for Best Film of that year so.