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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-07-25 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #567 ]


⌈ Secret Post #567 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2008-07-25 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
YES. Also what people don't get is also that by implication there must be something wrong with you if god hasn't given you all these wonderful things in your life. If you have had a shit life full of abuse then yes it does get sickening to hear religious nuts go on and on about how god has given them so many good things.

Re: 151

[identity profile] blueutopiah.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 10:19 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry but I worked too hard for the good things in my life to claim that any god had a hand in them. Conversely, I take responsibility and/or action for the bad things that happen as well; I solve the problem or I learn to deal and move on as hard as it may be. It angers me when people claim that god is punishing someone because bad things happen to them. Shouldn't it be that if they praise god for the good things, they should blame god for the bad things?

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[identity profile] cdaae.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
I have a friend who's mother gets an annual Christmas card with one of those photocopied letters sent to all relatives, from some distant cousin. My friend's brother killed himself. In that year, this cousin's letter contained a list of all the things God had blessed them with that year, such as a new condo and car and their daughter getting a wonderful highly paid new job.

I really thought she should have written back saying "This year, God increased my chronic health problems to such a degree that I barely left the house, then made my son jump off a bridge".

Because yes, sometimes religious people should know when to STFU about God.

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[identity profile] scientivity.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
God didn't give me any of the good things I have in my life - he gave me the abilities I needed to get those things for myself. Whether or not I actually did get them was up to me.

Conversely, God isn't punishing me with any of the hardship in my life. Hardship is hardship; my faith gives me the strength to overcome it and grow intellectually and emotionally from it.

It's just as disgusting to me when someone praises God for "giving" them good fortune or material things as when someone condemns him for "punishing" them with grief and hardship.

In other words, I'm pretty sure I'm mostly agreeing with this comment. Just my take on the whole thing.

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[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-07-25 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually, I think the concept is more that when you talk about what God has blessed you with--opportunities, talent, chances, luck (and honestly, in any arts career, working hard isn't enough--you are going to need loads of luck), and the strength to endure through the bad times--you're focusing on the good things in your life. He's talking about the good things, but that doesn't mean that he doesn't have his share of suckitude as well. Like every human person, he probably has horrible things he's had to go through. He's just looking at his life with an (please forgive the rhyme, it's unintentional) attitude of gratitude. If that's annoying, then it really seems...well, it seems more your problem than his.

So someone is grateful because his life is going well. Who is his grateful to is not the issue, just that he's grateful. This annoys you.

That just seems sad.
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[personal profile] cleverthylacine 2008-07-26 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
No, there actually is a strain of fundamentalist Xian philosophy that does believe material blessings are gifts from G-d and that the less fortunate...

I know. It's not got anything to do with any Xian theology I recognise either, but here, check out [livejournal.com profile] dark_christian.

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[identity profile] omorka.livejournal.com 2008-07-26 02:42 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, never thought I'd see that community plugged on this one! But yes, "Name It And Claim It" so-called theology is astonishingly widespread these days.