[ SECRET POST #4143 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4143 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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02.
[Hank Azaria, The Simpsons]


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03.
[Paul Hollywood, Great British Bake Off]


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04.
[All for One]


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05.
[Plato, philosophy(slash?)]


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06.
[Fear the Walking Dead]


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07.
[The Nanny]












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Comments

[maximumhusky]

Watched the Azaria interview on youtube a while back. He said that he felt bad for all the people who have been treated like racist stock characters and who have been harmed because of people getting the bright idea to start making fun of IRL people because of Apu's schtick being mainstream.

I'm not South Asian or Indian, but I can get that a character who's major humor contribution is essentially "lol Indian people breed too much and are backwards" isn't that great.

[(Anonymous)]

They had eight kids because everyone had been giving Manjula fertility drugs, not because they're Indian. That was very firmly established from the beginning. And they've never been presented as "backwards", either as people or culturally. I mean heck, he feared an arranged marriage but fell in love at first sight.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt

This is complicated, and I'm not necessarily going to argue that Manjula having 8 kids actually is racist, because it's complicated and I would have to go back and rewatch the episode to make an actual argument and I don't want to.

But, just in general, I don't think that the existence of a textual explanation precludes something from being racist

[(Anonymous)]

It absolutely should. Context and intent are THE determining factors in what is xenophobically hateful versus what is just harmlessly ignorant.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that those things matter. I'm not saying that textual explanations aren't relevant - I'm just saying that they're not dispositive.

[(Anonymous)]

i mean it's kind of that argument why female characters in underwear and fishnets are okay because in-universe they breathe through their skin so in that context it's totally not sexist design