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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-12 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #4147 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4147 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Humphrey Bogart in The Maltese Falcon, 1941]


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[Teen Wolf]


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[The Three Investigators]


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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]


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[Brooklyn Nine-Nine]


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[Silver Bullet]









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I really like the show too.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-13 08:39 am (UTC)(link)
I thought season 4 was okay - honestly, I figured Peter was planning to double-cross Kate after he became alpha (also, I'm pretty sure he not only wanted the alpha power, he maybe wanted to know if taking the true alpha power would give him something extra, and he also wanted the alpha power from Scott specifically, and he was willing to make a deal with his literal Devil or least that's what I thought). Season 5, both parts, was just all over the damn place and I only watched parts of it - not great arcs, a huge amount of new characters. Season 6A was much better but season 6B had the same issue as 5 with a whole lot of new characters, but had a slightly better arc, even if Monroe's reasoning was completely stupid (not necessarily unrealistic, but stupid). But I thought both season 6 parts suffered greatly due to the severe, though not complete, lack of Stiles (my favorite character), which was completely understandable given what happened to the actor, but unfortunate for the show.

I have no idea what the writers were trying to do with Scott. They showed again and again him making terrible decisions. They showed really bad consequences to some of them, but then told (not showed) the audience that he was a wonderful person. He was a terrible alpha to Liam. He didn't really help Malia much. He seemed sort of nominally in charge, sometimes, but I'm really not sure why anyone listened to him. He didn't listen to Stiles about a bunch of stuff that turned out to be absolutely right.

Re: I really like the show too.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-13 10:46 am (UTC)(link)
I liked Liam, and I loved the parts that had Scott saying, "Hey, if you don't want to do this, you don't have to." That was the Alpha!Scott I wanted to see. The rest of it was a mess (and don't get me started about the whole "You'll be an Alpha while I'm at college" thing).

The most irritating parts of S6 is how easy it should have been to deal with it. Like, the whole "Oh, there's no way to stop Monroe from getting these kids in the station!" There's an armed militia distributing guns in town and demanding the sheriff's office turn over two underage suspects to them or they'll start shooting, call the FBI. And then McCall showed up and they were like "Ha ha, you're not here officially, you can't tell them about the supernatural!" Like, a) There's no way the FBI WOULDN'T know about the supernatural in this verse. b) he doesn't need to tell them about them going after supernaturals, he just needs to TELL THEM ABOUT THE ARMED MILITIA MURDERING PEOPLE. What's the militia going to say? "We're after teenage werewolves"?
osidiano: Allison Argent from Teen Wolf looking up thoughtfully (thoughtful)

Re: I really like the show too.

[personal profile] osidiano 2018-05-16 03:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Most of season 4 I was cool with. I do love Berserkers from all lore backgrounds, and the mercenary hunt was fun (and we got some great funny lines out of it! “I’m worth $5?!” “Hey, now, that’s 5 MILLION.” “I only make $40,000 a year! . . .Maybe I should kill myself. . .”). It was really just the thing with Peter and Kate being in cahoots that didn’t jive well. Like, Deucalion’s later change of heart wrt Scott, while weird and sudden, wasn’t as unreconcilable to me as Peter’s agreement to work with Kate. Scott did technically stop the Darach, who had the grudge against Deuc and was the one most responsible for killing off his Alpha Pack (and I think we did get some little mentions that early in the show that losing Betas/pack members was really hard on an Alpha, though I’m not entirely sure I ever understand how pack connections worked in a pack composed entirely of Alphas on this show). Kate, on the other hand, personally trapped Peter in a basement, murdered a bunch of his family via horrific fire, and damned him to a slow, agonizing recovery that literally drove him so insane it was the basis of the Deadpool they were dealing with in season 4. :\ He was willing to slaughter the last two remaining members of his family to become the Alpha so he could get his revenge on her and the Hunters. And I get that Peter had changed a bit, since he went from trying to kill Scott and Derek in season 1 to helping them both during seasons 2 thru 3b (though always with his own agenda), so I got the impression that he wasn’t as hung up on their having killed him as he was about the years he spent trapped in the hellish prison of his own charred and scarred body. (And this is compounded with confusion because Peter still clearly has feelings about family that at times override his own selfishness and whatever lingering madness he has from the Hale fire/Dancing the Black Spiral, because they bring it up OVER AND OVER AGAIN with Malia).

I completely agree with you about Season 5, by the way; SO MANY new characters, and the pacing just felt like nobody got enough time for their arcs. I don’t think reviving the Beast of Gevaudan was a good villain choice, personally, and like I’ve mentioned before the random Ubermensch Nazi werewolf the Dread Doctors had annoyed me. As much as I tease about Season 6a being a total rip off of the Wyld West expac, I did enjoy the cowboy-ghost-story aesthetics they gave the Wild Hunt. I’m very sad we didn’t play more with the Hellhound stuff after we spent all that time building the lore and giving them connections to banshees (and some of Parrish’s hallucinations with Lydia were !!!!!!! V relevant to my interests). On a 5/6 note, I really didn’t like Theo when he first showed up, but I do like how they ended up handling him, his punishment, and his return to the pack.

But yeah. On the Scott front, we got a lot of mixed messaging and it was overall pretty disappointing. :( Like, I still love the show, despite all its faults, but there’s a lot I wished they’d done differently. Hopefully this will mean that the main fandom has lots to go on for years to come (I mean, the Sterek fandom is still going strong, and Hoechlin’s been off the show as a regular for years already).
Edited 2018-05-16 15:09 (UTC)