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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-05-13 03:13 pm

[ SECRET POST #4148 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4148 ⌋

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[Will and Grace season 9]


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[Mary-Kate and Ashley Olsen, Elizabeth Olsen]


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[Stranger Things, Billy/Mrs. Wheeler]


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(Grimm)


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[Antoni Porowski, Queer Eye 2018]


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[The Crown]









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(Anonymous) 2018-05-13 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
But they're not being paid for their fame they're being paid for their work

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Explain RDJ getting paid $50m for the first Avengers movie while his co-stars (even Chris Evans) ~only getting 600k-2m. Actors are paid for their names.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
It's a bit more complicated with RDJ. He negotiated for that amount, has a powerful producer wife. Yes, you could argue he was able to negotiate because of his being known for Iron Man, and thus has more power that way than Evans. However, I wouldn't argue that RDJ at that time was more popular than Evans, though. Scarlett Johanssen and Jeremy Renner, in particular, were also known names.
I feel RDJ is a special case, in this way, as no one anticipated how well received Iron Man was going to be.

I feel like original OP is missing the point. The wage gap is known in every industry (including movies) and the fact that people are finally paying attention can only be a good thing. This goes beyond 'popularity' IMO, to the inequalities women face in that industry in particular ie; there are less roles for women, particularly main characters, therefore making it more likely that a man, as Matt Smith, will become more popular, hence, in OP's opinion 'deserves' the bigger pay cheque.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
You're kidding, right? By the time the first Avengers movie came out, RDJ had two successful Iron Man movies under his belt plus the first Sherlock Holmes movie, and he was a much, MUCH better known actor because he's been around since the 80s and was notorious for doing jail time and was nominated for two Academy Awards. On top of that, Iron Man was the backbone of the whole Avengers franchise.


Whereas Evans had only done the first Cap movie, that terrible Fantastic Four movie and a bunch of relatively small roles. RDJ was waaaaay more popular and well known, which is why he was able to get the big fat paycheck.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 08:57 am (UTC)(link)
That's because he didn't settle for a fixed amount of money, but negotiated for a percentage cut of the profit. Which in his case worked out very well for him and literally paid off. On another movie he might have had less luck, so this type of thing can be a risk.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I think yes and no? From what I've seen about salaries when it came to actors, they're more likely paid for their sellability in combination with their work?

It's easier to justify giving a non-titular character's actor a high salary if that actor is going to draw people into watching that show or movie. And lots of people (myself included) will watch something --or at least give it a chance--if it stars someone we like.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if you've ever spent any amount of time in a foreign country, you'll encounter plenty of people who get hyped for an American movie just because it has a particular actor or actress in it. Oftentimes a name is all it takes to lure people in.
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[personal profile] tree_and_leaf 2018-05-14 08:53 am (UTC)(link)
But as someone said upthread, that might be fair enough for season 1. It doesn't apply in S2 - Foy's performance was widely praised by reviewers, and I don't believe the number of Matt Smith fans who discovered the Crown between S1 and S2 can be all that significant.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
Actors who are known and have a fanbase will bring in viewers automatically regardless of the project. That is a bargaining chip during negotiations, which means that actors who are known will get more money.

Actors who become more famous as a show goes on often get more money over time because they're bringing in the viewers and are also getting offers outside of the show, which means the show has to keep them interested.

This is super common in Hollywood. The Friends cast getting equal pay when they negotiated together was groundbreaking at the time and is still outside of the norm for any show with an ensemble cast.

(Anonymous) 2018-05-14 02:30 am (UTC)(link)
Not that simple. Cast a total unknown in a movie and I guarantee you that even if they're the lead, they won't be getting as high of a salary if a super famous Hollywood star is their co-star.